This may seem a strange question to ask here, but I wasn't able to word the question in any other way to get a clear result from Google.
What I was wondering is if your ethnicity (regardless of generations) still means anything to the government during times of war. For example, would we ever see civilian prison camps, like the Japanese interment camps in WW2 America, if one nation declared war a full scale war on another in a modern setting?
Does ethnicity still carry penalty in war time?
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Does ethnicity still carry penalty in war time?
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To be honest, yeah we probably would. But I expect it would be done quietly and on a smaller scale. For example, I doubt that if we say, went to war with China, that all Chinese descended citizens would be detained. But I'm sure the government keeps tabs on those it finds suspicious. We probably don't hear about half of what they do in that regard. I for one am more scared of what a modern full scale war would look like...
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I'd hazard that ethnicity no longer matters in this regard for the most part and surveillance of media feeds to get a larger picture of overall social beliefs would be the standard in terms of small scale action and targeting. Like attempts to classify conservatives as radical terrorists.
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Re: Does ethnicity still carry penalty in war time?
Uhh, yeah, I'd say yes. Especially in other countries with other cultures. There are still countries out there that have a rather low view of foreigners.
I'd add one more way to say it: When peoples' fears are magnified by the horrors of the media's portrayal of war, does racism play a part in who civilians are afraid of?
When it comes down to it, mass hysteria will make people do just about anything. Even in the US today, black Americans have to worry about being arrested for doing nothing wrong, and that's not even during wartime. That's just life. Now if we went to war with, say ohhhh... Russia's a good example... The average American would be scared to death of anyone with a Russian accent, and by the same coin, (probably, and with good reason) any Russian-American would be scared just as much of police watching their every move, just LOOKING for something to arrest them for. It happens now in daily life, it will happen much more in wartime with mass paranoia.
Here in the US, we had a thing called the House Un-American Activities Committee, or HUAC. They ruined innocent peoples' lives, just my nature of their heritage, under the cover of "hunting terrorists", or something similar. That happened before, and it would DEFINATELY happen again.
I'd add one more way to say it: When peoples' fears are magnified by the horrors of the media's portrayal of war, does racism play a part in who civilians are afraid of?
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When it comes down to it, mass hysteria will make people do just about anything. Even in the US today, black Americans have to worry about being arrested for doing nothing wrong, and that's not even during wartime. That's just life. Now if we went to war with, say ohhhh... Russia's a good example... The average American would be scared to death of anyone with a Russian accent, and by the same coin, (probably, and with good reason) any Russian-American would be scared just as much of police watching their every move, just LOOKING for something to arrest them for. It happens now in daily life, it will happen much more in wartime with mass paranoia.
Here in the US, we had a thing called the House Un-American Activities Committee, or HUAC. They ruined innocent peoples' lives, just my nature of their heritage, under the cover of "hunting terrorists", or something similar. That happened before, and it would DEFINATELY happen again.
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I'm completly following you.Fawkes wrote:However I would be very naive to think something like that on a small scale couldn't happen. It would be something more precise action rather than in mass. Suspected indiviuals or targets would be round up or disappear because of evidence found or "found". Being labeled a spy or terrorist so the government could detain a small number of people on a much smaller scale and out of the eyes of people. All in the name of national security.
I even think that we ARE now at war ... with what ? "Terrorism". Here in France, the government has deployed the "emergency plan" to fight against terrorism. But this thing gives politicians all the power they need to arrest people. E.g : just after each terrorist attacks (like the following or two days), more than 50 people where arrested. They all had (as said by media) arabic names.
It's odd ! They don't even know the murderer that they already arrest "people close around him".
So, when France (mainly, but not only) attacks some middle-east countries (like syria and a bunch of other ones) to fight terrorism, I can only say that we're at war.
PS : Sorry i that's not really understandable, I'm trying to write just waked up ^^
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Cheers for helping guys. I wasn't making any head way other than speculation on my own part, but you've all given me some more to think about.
However, it's kind of worrying to see the question remains as muddied as before. Guess we'll only ever know if it ever comes to it...
However, it's kind of worrying to see the question remains as muddied as before. Guess we'll only ever know if it ever comes to it...
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Re: Does ethnicity still carry penalty in war time?
Yeah, it will. Even if its not the governments fault, there are certain people who will be offensive and degrade people of a certain ethnicity, especially during wartime.
Even if the government doesnt get involved, it is likely that the ethnic groups would move to communities filled only with that ethnic group, isolating themselves!
Even if the government doesnt get involved, it is likely that the ethnic groups would move to communities filled only with that ethnic group, isolating themselves!
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