What were the advertisements up on the page when you experienced this? One of them has some "on leaving the page" Javascript that causes this pop up, I've seen happen on another Keenspot comic, so it's definitely something malign in their ad network. Hopefully we can help Keenspot find it and remove it.2plus2makes5 wrote:For the sake of productivity, I'm going to ignore the argument taking place. Below is the address of a pop-up that appeared when I clicked the "Forums" button on the Keenspot page.
http://freeproducttesters.com/EligibleMember/
They remove the ad, Conal. Then they harden the ad network to keep people from breaking into it and doing code injection. Like I said, these advertisements violate Keenspot's ad policies, so they will remove them them should they find them. Therefore, our goal should be to help them find these violators. At least we're only getting popups. Usually, when an ad network is compromised, the attackers embed drive-by downloads (that's what happened to dA). As near as I've been able to tell, there is only one compromised advertisement, maybe two. At least, I haven't experienced the problem often enough to be indicative of more than that.Conal wrote:Just out of interest, what can Keenspots do about it? They still get them & as Avwolf said; it's affected dA too.
And to answer your question, if 80% of Tom's fans were upset by the move, yes, he'd leave. He consulted various groups of his fans before the move to get their opinions, and he then only signed a one year contract to see if Keenspot and Twokinds could work together. I'm sure if Tom had known you'd be in the firm opposition, he'd have solicited your opinion. If he's unsatisfied after that year is up, he's under no obligation to stay with Keenspot any longer. This wasn't an easy decision for him to make either; he didn't jump directly into Keenspot's arms, he engaged in this partnership after a lot of deliberation.
That wouldn't be surprising, Keenspot is very interested in doing print publishing. I don't know that that's in his current contract. But if the book ends up being better quality for the same or a similar price, then haven't we won? You know personally how mediocre Indyplanet's print quality could be. Granting license isn't "giving away rights." If that were true, Tom wouldn't have any rights to his work, because he's already released them under a Creative Commons license. My big question for you is "what did Tom give up?" It's not like he didn't have ads on the website before the move. He still has full creative control of the comic. He gave up the ability to host Twokinds elsewhere on the Internet, but retained his right to post Twokinds-related work on DA, retained his right to permit mirrors of Twokinds' content, and retained his general rights to the characters and setting. Yes, he's currently hosted off a subdomain, but he still owns his own domain names. He no longer has to pay for the bandwidth usage of the main site (the forums are still fully hosted on server space he rents directly). He's contractually obligated to keep a regular update schedule now, so he's given up a little bit of his freedom.Conal wrote:Keenspots being successful from him, after he gave away rights to the comic. I bet Book Two will have Keenspots on it.avwolf wrote:"You should be successful from your own work," you said. What do you call this?!