Re: Star Citizen
Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 3:24 am
I'm waiting for an actual release before I make my super upgrade on my PC. So I'll just keep saving money and then do some massive quad-SLI setup or something for this game.
A place to sit around and talk about the comic.
https://www.twokinds.net/forum/
The Hull A is great for those just striking out in the galaxy on their own. The Hull A is most similar to the Aurora and Mustang, but lacks the ‘jack of all trades’ nature.
Where the others trade cargo capacity for firepower or speed, the Hull A is 100% on-mission transport! Additionally, Hull A (and B) are often used as station-to-orbit ferries.
The Hull B is a more rugged option most often compared to MISC’s own Freelancer. But where the Freelancer is equipped for long range exploration and other roles, the Hull B is a pure cargo transport.
Hull B are often used as corporate support ships, and it is not uncommon to spot several in different liveries during a single flight.
The Hull C is the most-produced of the range and is considered by many to be the most versatile, often called the most common ship in the galaxy.
Intended to hit the ‘sweet spot’ between the smaller single-person transports and the massive superfreighters that make up the rest of the range, the Hull C offers the expansive modularity of the larger ships while still retaining a modicum of the maneuverability allowed the low end of the range.
The Hull D kicks off the larger end of the spectrum with a massive ship build around a rugged frame. The Hull D is affordable enough to be operated by mid-sized organizations and companies.
Hull D are often used as flagships for mercantile operations, but their bulk means that they should be operated with escort fighters while not in safe space. The UEE military uses modified Hull D as part of their supply chain, arming and refueling the soldiers on the front line.
The Hull Series are the dedicated haulers of the Star Citizen universe. When I say "dedicated", I mean that in every possible way. Most ships in the game, including this series, are very modular. You can swap out weapons, shielding, hardpoints, comm arrays, Electronic Warfare - the list goes on. But what makes these ships unique is that they are fantastic as simply hauling cargo from A to B - and nothing else. They are big, slow, poorly armed, and will be highly dependent on escort fighters for defense. They may have point defense turrets to engage at very close range, and their shield should allow them to take a beating without losing too much cargo or vital systems. Even unloaded, these are massive, heavy ships. With a full cargo hold, expect them to travel like a brick dipped in molasses. If you don't have a fighter escort with you, or travel in high security space, expect to be easy picking for any pirate who happens to wander your way.The Hull E is generally owned by major corporations and operated with a high degree of planning. It is the largest specialized freighter available on the market today,
The lack of maneuverability inherent in such a large ship means that anyone planning to operate them should be careful about equipping turrets and providing escort. Their potential load (and modularity) is unparalleled, however: no other ship allows as much room to store goods or to modify towards another role!
Envy661 wrote:Oh hey, so they literally made EVE Online's Gallente federation Iteron series of ships!
They're primarily hauling ships. There's five of them. Each one up from the earlier letter or number is bigger than the previous (ex: Iteron II is bigger than Iteron I, Hull B is bigger than Hull A), and yeah, the size thing. It's literally the same concept.y7h65 wrote:Envy661 wrote:Oh hey, so they literally made EVE Online's Gallente federation Iteron series of ships!
MISC Hull Series A-E Size and Design Comparison here.
Gallente Federation Iteron Design here.
Now, I guess they are the same in that they both fill the same role (Long Range, Lightly Armed Cargo Hauler), are both kinda longer than any other direction spectrum, and are both slightly bulbous. But otherwise, I don't really see how they "literally made EVE Online's Gallente fedeartion Iteron series of ships".
I just don't see it. If you had said "inspired by", I could maybe have agreed with you. But to say they are "literally the same ships" because they haul cargo and increase in size sequentially is too much of a stretch. I can see a vague similarity in that both ships are roughly cylindrical, slow, and carry cargo; but that's where the similarities end. Does the Iteron carry it's cargo in externally mounted cargo cages? Does it retract to a fraction of its size when not in use? Are there variants that can and cannot land planetside? Does it have the same modularity that the Hulls are planned to have? I think the spindle system alone is enough to set it apart from any other transport I've ever seen.Envy661 wrote:They're primarily hauling ships. There's five of them. Each one up from the earlier letter or number is bigger than the previous (ex: Iteron II is bigger than Iteron I, Hull B is bigger than Hull A), and yeah, the size thing. It's literally the same concept.
Well by that logic, the Mercedes-Benz C-Class must be a ripoff of the BMW 3 Series. They're both luxury 4 door sedans with a sequential numbering system within their lines, with the higher numbered vehicle being higher end than the previous one. I mean, the BMW 3 Series came out first so by your logic, any luxury 4 door sedan that is introduced after 1975 is a literal recreation of the BMW 3 Series.Envy661 wrote:
They're primarily hauling ships. There's five of them. Each one up from the earlier letter or number is bigger than the previous (ex: Iteron II is bigger than Iteron I, Hull B is bigger than Hull A), and yeah, the size thing. It's literally the same concept.
Before this official sheet was released. Ben Lesnick talked about dividing FU by 4 to reach the proper SCU value for cargo. Well, I am exceptionally glad that is not the case with several ships. (OK, I'm really just glad the BMM is on the same tier as the Hull C. 5000 vs 4600 is perhaps a little too generous, while 1500 vs 4600 made the trader in me very salty)Ship Name---------------------------------Cubic Meters----SCU Actual
Aegis Avenger--------------------------------23.4375-------------12
Aegis Reclaimer (Raw)----------------------12240----------6266.88
Aegis Reclaimer (Cargo)--------------------562.5--------------288
Aegis Redeemer (Marines)---------------23.4375-------------12
Aegis Redeemer (No Marines)-----------46.875--------------24
Aegis Retaliator----------------------------------250---------------128
Anvil Carrack-----------------------------------2065.5---------1057.536
Anvil Hornet F7C--------------------------24.4921875---------12.54
Consolidated Mustang-------------------19.140625------------9.8
Drake Cutlass----------------------------------63.75--------------32.64
Drake Caterpillar-------------------------------1000---------------512
Origin 890 Jump-----------------------------703.125-------------360
Origin 300i--------------------------------------7.8125---------------4
Origin 325a-------------------------------------7.8125---------------4
Origin 315p-----------------------------------11.71875 -------------6
RSI Aurora CL------------------------------------45---------------23.04
RSI Aurora (Others)----------------------------25----------------12.8
RSI Constellation Andromeda-------------262.5-------------134.4
RSI Constellation Taurus--------------------462.5------------236.8
RSI Orion (Ore) --------------------------------27000------------13824
RSI Orion (Cargo)----------------------------421.875 ------------216
MISC Starfarer---------------------------------7897.5-----------4043.52
MISC Freelancer------------------------------101.25 ------------51.84
MISC Freelancer MAX-------------------241.09375----------123.44
MISC Hull A-------------------------------------93.75-----------------48
MISC Hull B--------------------------------------750------------------384
MISC Hull C-------------------------------------9000-----------------4608
MISC Hull D------------------------------------40500---------------20736
MISC Hull E------------------------------------192000-------------98304
Banu Merchantman----------------------------9800--------------5017.6
asphere8 wrote:I was surprised to see that nobody has created a TwoKinds fan org on the RSI website. Has anyone planned to do that?
Well, I'll be joining that later today.Envy661 wrote:There technically is one already.Made in the earlier days of the game's development. (Like, literally right after they released organizations). The name was decided on by members of the Twokinds community who were in the unofficial skype chat and interested in the game.