Comic for May 22, 2021: Kathrin in Trouble pt3
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Re: Comic for May 22, 2021: Kathrin in Trouble pt3
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Does it bother anyone else that the knife was on the wrong side of the place setting? Sorry, I can't let it go.
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Does it bother anyone else that the knife was on the wrong side of the place setting? Sorry, I can't let it go.
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Re: Comic for May 22, 2021: Kathrin in Trouble pt3
I find a general lack of appreciation for small magic.Rasol wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 12:23 pmIf healing magic were something anyone who could use magic could use, you would likely see a LOT of use for it. While throwing a fireball, or casting a teleportation spell is handy, being able to heal wounds, or cure ailments is going to be a MUCH more useful skill to have.
Heck, let's stick with fire/explosion magic. How often will it seem like exploding a castle is the best way to achieve your goals? As compared to causing a very small explosion inside that guy's chest? Or causing someone's entire body to ignite, versus cauterizing a wound?
Or kinetic magic. It's impressive to turn a bunch of rocks into a castle overnight... but how often do you need to do that? How often do you need to stir a pot of soup, when you also need or would prefer to be doing something else?
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Re: Comic for May 22, 2021: Kathrin in Trouble pt3
This is a very good, if seldom mentioned, point. I'll also add this: if we assume magic gives the user the ability to manipulate matter based on thought, it would be easier to create a building-leveling explosion, than to heal a wound in someone's arm. However, if somebody knew the structure inside, and what needed to be done to fix it on a cellular level, I doubt any skilled cleric would have a tough time.Warrl wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 7:13 pmI find a general lack of appreciation for small magic.Rasol wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 12:23 pmIf healing magic were something anyone who could use magic could use, you would likely see a LOT of use for it. While throwing a fireball, or casting a teleportation spell is handy, being able to heal wounds, or cure ailments is going to be a MUCH more useful skill to have.
Heck, let's stick with fire/explosion magic. How often will it seem like exploding a castle is the best way to achieve your goals? As compared to causing a very small explosion inside that guy's chest? Or causing someone's entire body to ignite, versus cauterizing a wound?
Or kinetic magic. It's impressive to turn a bunch of rocks into a castle overnight... but how often do you need to do that? How often do you need to stir a pot of soup, when you also need or would prefer to be doing something else?
I'll also add, Rasol, that Flora wasn't really... shall I say... high society, prior to the comic. She was basically raised as a slave. Would any slave owner use a resource, probably quite valuable, on a farm slave? Also, building on your other point, I bet Flora WAS surprised that Trace knew healing magic, on account of he had no memories. He was a harmless, memory-less human. However, take into account the reactions of the other two instances I mentioned. Nobody batted an eye when "healing crystals" were mentioned, and Keith made no mention of how her wounds were instantly healed.
Also, if Flora could really cause damage to somebody that would kill them by making them bleed to death in moments, she wouldn't do that to the owner of the ship they're on, REPEATEDLY. She would have learned to hold back if she didn't think he'd make it back out of whatever she could do to him.
It's only wrong if you're right-handed. But in all seriousness, I use the fork with my right hand, and cut with my left, so this makes far more sense to me than the "proper" setup.
For now, we'll just assume that Kat is left-handed, and the table set the silverware accordingly. For plot reasons.
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Re: Comic for May 22, 2021: Kathrin in Trouble pt3
Sepsis is indeed a possibility, but it would take a few days to set it, if no medical treatment is applied...Bellhead wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 11:39 am -snip-
If we believe what Roselyn said in that sketch, all food is stored in a suspended animation chamber immediately after being cooked. If that's the case, that knife would have been spotless. And if it were just stored in some drawer somewhere but wasn't dusty, as we see it's not, then any germs, bacteria, viruses, etc. would have died years ago.
Contaminants from his fur are still a possibility, but I highly doubt he'd last that long anyway, either with the cut, or the mission, take your pick.
By what we have seen in comic, even in sketches or rather what we have not seen. Healing magic seems to be specialized and uncommon at best. Or maybe limited? Yeah the grand templar may stop that nasty nosebleed of yours or close that stupid gash. But he can't reattach your arm after it got chopped up, not without a proper medical theater.Rasol wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 12:23 pmGood examples. That said, the only time we see healing magic 'on screen' was with trace, and Flora seemed to be QUITE confused by it.Bellhead wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 8:37 am Luckily, mine is still pretty sharp. Trace brought Flora to a Healer early on, when she tripped on a branch, shortly after meeting Keith: "I am Trace Legacy. And you will heal her." Granted, we didn't see it, but we also didn't see any bandages, after.
Also, when Flora questioned Keith about that letter from Laura, after he clocked her in her sleep. Trace healed her bleeding nose. "T-Trace? What are you doing?"
And there was Eric. "If you don't mind, I need to get my hearing crystals, excuse me." Then again, they have iodine for disinfecting wounds, so I guess it's a little ambiguous, or maybe retconned?
Eh. I'd wager it's pretty common, for those who either know magic, specialize in the field, or have the money for it. Likely a luxury if you're not a mage, but Rom here might have a bit of practice, as a mercenary.
Even if we were to assume she was surprised that TRACE knew healing magic, that would still imply that such magic is highly specialized, and even most people capable of using magic don't dabble in it. Not even the Grand Templar.
If healing magic were something anyone who could use magic could use, you would likely see a LOT of use for it. While throwing a fireball, or casting a teleportation spell is handy, being able to heal wounds, or cure ailments is going to be a MUCH more useful skill to have. This goes for both on & off the battlefield.
So based on the examples we have, we can guess that healing magic is at best, very rare, or at worst, doesn't exist. I somehow doubt a character like Romulus, who barely ranks above some JRPG random encounter in terms of importance, is going to have access to that kind of magic.
On the other hand we have had very limited exposure to settlements where a doctor, magical or otherwise, may live. The only "doctor" we have seen, outsides the basitin isles, is the apothecary Keith tried to procure for Nat. So maybe it is not healing magic is uncommon or hard to perform but we simply have not seen any healing cleric yet.
Yeah me too. Games are the worst offenders were all magic is either a weapon or healing, although given that most games have lots of combat it makes sense you would not see other type of magic ofter. DnD despite being a game does have some utility spells usefull outside combat. But the only place where I have seen small magic is on TV, books and movies, for example Harry Potter, half of those books is seeing kids do chores with magic.Warrl wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 7:13 pmI find a general lack of appreciation for small magic.Rasol wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 12:23 pmIf healing magic were something anyone who could use magic could use, you would likely see a LOT of use for it. While throwing a fireball, or casting a teleportation spell is handy, being able to heal wounds, or cure ailments is going to be a MUCH more useful skill to have.
Heck, let's stick with fire/explosion magic. How often will it seem like exploding a castle is the best way to achieve your goals? As compared to causing a very small explosion inside that guy's chest? Or causing someone's entire body to ignite, versus cauterizing a wound?
Or kinetic magic. It's impressive to turn a bunch of rocks into a castle overnight... but how often do you need to do that? How often do you need to stir a pot of soup, when you also need or would prefer to be doing something else?
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Re: Comic for May 22, 2021: Kathrin in Trouble pt3
Re small magic, there could be other limiters, too. From things like the amount of mana that’s available in a given area/to a given person over a period of time, to limits on how much one can use over a given time (some universes refer to this as “spell sickness”). It could also have to do with the level of control required, too. Ex, a shockwave/push requires less control then delicately stirring a spoon.
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Re: Comic for May 22, 2021: Kathrin in Trouble pt3
Regarding wounds, we've seen characters suffer much more dangerous wounds than a knife to the arm. Heck, Zen's two wounds we've seen (ran clean through the back/chest with a sword & the serious burn on the leg) would be potentially deadly if they relied solely on the medical practices and skills found historically in the real world at a similar era.
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Re: Comic for May 22, 2021: Kathrin in Trouble pt3
Mana burn. Tom mentioned it in a stream at the time, I'm told. Use of a lot of mana in a short time will cause a "burn" to the body, with the sheer amount of energy being channeled through it. From what I remember, it's more likely in keidran than in humans, because humans must draw mana from their surroundings, which takes time to replenish, while keidran are forced to use mana crystals which can be stockpiled, as Natani did. Keidran have the advantage over humans in casting speed because of crystals, but it also increases their risk of Mana Burn because they have no natural limit to casting speed like humans do.FuryoftheStars wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 6:57 pm Re small magic, there could be other limiters, too. From things like the amount of mana that’s available in a given area/to a given person over a period of time, to limits on how much one can use over a given time (some universes refer to this as “spell sickness”). It could also have to do with the level of control required, too. Ex, a shockwave/push requires less control then delicately stirring a spoon.
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Re: Comic for May 22, 2021: Kathrin in Trouble pt3
Small magic would logically use mana at a lower rate than big magic. Sure, you'd do a lot more of it, but quite possibly using less total energy, and definitely less in any one spell.
Rate matters.
If I correctly remember the calculations I did, the amount of energy that the atomic bomb released over Hiroshima in a couple of microseconds lasts Seattle City light, on average, roughly 8 hours. Seattle City Light doesn't evaporate people. (Doesn't hurt that the energy is delivered at maybe a million or so points spread over an area of probably more than 300 square miles, rather than a single point.)
Rate matters.
If I correctly remember the calculations I did, the amount of energy that the atomic bomb released over Hiroshima in a couple of microseconds lasts Seattle City light, on average, roughly 8 hours. Seattle City Light doesn't evaporate people. (Doesn't hurt that the energy is delivered at maybe a million or so points spread over an area of probably more than 300 square miles, rather than a single point.)
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Re: Comic for May 22, 2021: Kathrin in Trouble pt3
if she was aim at the meat she didn't hit her mark. lets just say it was a miss steak
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Re: Comic for May 22, 2021: Kathrin in Trouble pt3
True, but small magic doesn’t have to as efficient, and there’s still the level of control required for some of it (which in turn may require more magic for more control).Warrl wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 2:52 am Small magic would logically use mana at a lower rate than big magic. Sure, you'd do a lot more of it, but quite possibly using less total energy, and definitely less in any one spell.
Rate matters.
If I correctly remember the calculations I did, the amount of energy that the atomic bomb released over Hiroshima in a couple of microseconds lasts Seattle City light, on average, roughly 8 hours. Seattle City Light doesn't evaporate people. (Doesn't hurt that the energy is delivered at maybe a million or so points spread over an area of probably more than 300 square miles, rather than a single point.)
Re: Comic for May 22, 2021: Kathrin in Trouble pt3
Been kind of busy, but figured I'd chime in to say, good going Kat! It was a very clever way to turn the tables on Romulus. To think, when she first bumped into that table, I figured it meant she was cornered, not actually her salvation.
It's bought her a bit of time, but I still think we'll have an appearance by Zen to lend a hand, and probably need rescuing in turn because he's injured. It's possible she was telling the truth in that she doesn't know where he specifically is in the manor at the moment because he was being naughty and not resting when she went to get the linens. Or she was just covering. Either way, I am expecting a pay off for the tease of him not resting and also to add to the drama of pushing himself when he has a bad infection.
It's bought her a bit of time, but I still think we'll have an appearance by Zen to lend a hand, and probably need rescuing in turn because he's injured. It's possible she was telling the truth in that she doesn't know where he specifically is in the manor at the moment because he was being naughty and not resting when she went to get the linens. Or she was just covering. Either way, I am expecting a pay off for the tease of him not resting and also to add to the drama of pushing himself when he has a bad infection.