Comic for May 10, 2021: Kathrin in Trouble

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Re: Comic for May 10, 2021: Kathrin in Trouble

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Technic[Bot] wrote: Mon May 10, 2021 11:53 pm That mansion is really large or has excellent sound-profing. Beach room had a full scale battle, entrance corridor was blown to bits and there is a dragon fighting in the dungeons. Yet all kat can hear is a low rumble.

So Romulus is gonna try to charm Kat into telling her where zen is? I mean props for him for not going the violent option first but I do not think Kat is that desperate. She is not awed at the sight in front of her, she is scared there is a huge armed wolf she has never seen before asking for zen.

Also wasn't her blouse a bit transparent? Or am I misremembering things.
The manor is pretty big, three floors and big rooms like the Oasis Room and the room where Detritus and Rose are in. It was built to host Dragon visitors, as it is in style (and probably actually practical for Trace). It could be seen from Edinmire (IIRC, at least the lights were from the farm where Flora lived).

Well, Romulus seems less bloodthirsty than his brother and has probably mistaken Kat as one of the "help" (and this being a human manor and Kat a Keidran, "help" = slave). He might try to convince her he's a Wolf Soldier here to "free" Zen from imprisonment like they had the ones in the wolfpen. Hopefully she's smart enough to play along and led him into a trap. Take him to the Oasis Room where everyone's at or something.

You're definitely not misremembering.
Eclipse wrote: Mon May 10, 2021 5:15 pm In trouble is right. Kat's not a fighter, so someone is going to need to step in and fight her for him. Most likely it'll be Zen, no one else who's capable of fighting is nearby to help. And that could be bad news for Zen's condition. Kat is already saying his infection is getting worse because he's refusing to rest and exacerbating it, if he has to fight now? Zen might not make it out of this chapter alive.
Lynn has been MIA since everything has gone down and seems a capable enough fighter despite his job as a messenger (he's a basitin after all and probably went through the same training all basitin do). I suspect Zen might attempt to help, but in his current condition, fighting a healthy wolf is right out.

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steelabjur wrote: Tue May 11, 2021 6:29 am Lynn has been MIA since everything has gone down and seems a capable enough fighter despite his job as a messenger (he's a basitin after all and probably went through the same training all basitin do). I suspect Zen might attempt to help, but in his current condition, fighting a healthy wolf is right out.
I see you beat me to bringing up Lynn. Admittedly, we simply don't know what he's actually capable of. He could be no better then the basic rank-and-file Basitin soldier, or he could be a specially trained elite warrior who also happens to have amazing knowledge of bureaucracy, assigned to Keith because of how unassuming he is. Also, he is a messenger, he'd need to be really adept at defending himself if someone tries to intercept whatever message he's carrying.

Also, that human soldier sent to escort Brutus to the manor's dungeon, Lt Reed. Is she still around? They did arrive at night, and although there has been a whole day between them arriving and all this mayhem (ample time for her to leave), I wonder if she's stuck around to keep an eye on things.
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tony1695 wrote: Tue May 11, 2021 6:44 am Also, that human soldier sent to escort Brutus to the manor's dungeon, Lt Reed. Is she still around? They did arrive at night, and although there has been a whole day between them arriving and all this mayhem (ample time for her to leave), I wonder if she's stuck around to keep an eye on things.
I'm pretty sure she went back to town, given that she arrived last night, and I don't recall seeing her at breakfast with everyone else.

Now about Lynn. I don't think the title of "Messenger" means much more than being essentially asexual. That said, he is a basitin, and appears rather adept to begin with. Remember Keith's fights with Natani early on? Basitin are short, but incredibly resilient, and military trained from an early age, to boot. Against a large opponent with a relatively blunt weapon like an axe, his size and speed would be his biggest advantage, and he would know it. If it came down to it, I have no doubt in my mind that Lynn would beat Romulus. That is, if he even shows up...
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If something happens to Zen, and he's not unconcious, Natani is going to know about it.

Sythe and Mrs. Nibbly are also out there, and are probably the closest to Zen and Kat.

The one I'm wondering about, who is potentially already aware of what's happening is Rose. Detritus revealed that she's "stiil as she was" since being integrated into the manor. Whether she is somehow still bound by Old Trace and Detritus' pact to resurect Saria, she still has to know a lot of what's going on with Clovis, and I can't imgine she's going to do nothing to stop it.

I'm guessing that Clovis's magic is strong enough to reisist whatever is thrown at him (or else he wouldn't be there). And he'll be around soon to teleport himself and Zen to who-knows-where. Maybe this time he will offer to save Zen's life or threaten to let him die unless Natani cooperates with him in some ghastly way.

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Rafe wrote: Tue May 11, 2021 11:30 am Sythe and Mrs. Nibbly are also out there, and are probably the closest to Zen and Kat.
I think the assumption is that this is happening while Remus tries to deal with Sythe. One of those "Meanwhile..." things.
If so, then hearing his brother yell, throw a fireball and then fall to his (likely) demise might serve as distraction enough for someone to intervene.
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Romulus is even cuter than Remus... <3 fingers crossed they both survive.

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Eclipse wrote: Mon May 10, 2021 5:15 pm In trouble is right. Kat's not a fighter, so someone is going to need to step in and fight her for him. Most likely it'll be Zen, no one else who's capable of fighting is nearby to help. And that could be bad news for Zen's condition. Kat is already saying his infection is getting worse because he's refusing to rest and exacerbating it, if he has to fight now? Zen might not make it out of this chapter alive.
Everyone is forgetting about two other players here, Sythe and Mrs Nibbly. Remember a few pages back, the two were heading that way. Since we know that Mrs Nibbly is a baby dragon, someone is about to receive a serious smack down.
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#23 Post by Technic[Bot] »

Does Kat even knows where the rest of the party is? I mean well enough to actually misderect Romulus?

Most of them where in the beach room but at this point they may have left already.

She definitely has no idea where Trace and Flora are. Nor Sythe and Maren for that matter.

But I could totally see Lynn pulling out a silent assassin and stabbing Romulus when he is not looking.
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Ainoko Ironrose wrote: Tue May 11, 2021 6:53 pm
Eclipse wrote: Mon May 10, 2021 5:15 pm In trouble is right. Kat's not a fighter, so someone is going to need to step in and fight her for him. Most likely it'll be Zen, no one else who's capable of fighting is nearby to help. And that could be bad news for Zen's condition. Kat is already saying his infection is getting worse because he's refusing to rest and exacerbating it, if he has to fight now? Zen might not make it out of this chapter alive.
Everyone is forgetting about two other players here, Sythe and Mrs Nibbly. Remember a few pages back, the two were heading that way. Since we know that Mrs Nibbly is a baby dragon, someone is about to receive a serious smack down.
For some reason, I thought Kat and Zen were on the ground floor? Sythe and Nibbly were headed towards the third floor.

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aitaituo wrote: Wed May 12, 2021 12:53 am
Ainoko Ironrose wrote: Tue May 11, 2021 6:53 pm
Eclipse wrote: Mon May 10, 2021 5:15 pm In trouble is right. Kat's not a fighter, so someone is going to need to step in and fight her for him. Most likely it'll be Zen, no one else who's capable of fighting is nearby to help. And that could be bad news for Zen's condition. Kat is already saying his infection is getting worse because he's refusing to rest and exacerbating it, if he has to fight now? Zen might not make it out of this chapter alive.
Everyone is forgetting about two other players here, Sythe and Mrs Nibbly. Remember a few pages back, the two were heading that way. Since we know that Mrs Nibbly is a baby dragon, someone is about to receive a serious smack down.
For some reason, I thought Kat and Zen were on the ground floor? Sythe and Nibbly were headed towards the third floor.
Probably second floor, since that's where the bedrooms seem to be located. You're right about Sythe and Nibs heading to the third floor (which is where Trace, Maren, Flora, Rose, and Detritus is), as they were heading upstairs from the second floor landing (after Remus took the express way to the first floor).

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I'm kind've expecting an oblivious moment.

"Oh sure, I'm heading there myself to change the sheets, why don't you come with me?"

And then a panel of conversation as they make their way there, asking how he knows Zen, if he's a friend etc.

Flash to Zens room when the mansion shakes, "What's going on?" hobbles out of bed, gets to the door and hears Remus and Kat outside, prepares to ambush.

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wowfood wrote: Wed May 12, 2021 9:23 am I'm kind've expecting an oblivious moment.

"Oh sure, I'm heading there myself to change the sheets, why don't you come with me?"

And then a panel of conversation as they make their way there, asking how he knows Zen, if he's a friend etc.

Flash to Zens room when the mansion shakes, "What's going on?" hobbles out of bed, gets to the door and hears Remus and Kat outside, prepares to ambush.
As much as I hate to say it, that is a distinct possibility. However, I'd like to think that Kat, having lived on the ship with all of them for quite a while, AND having been in the mansion for the last couple days seeing everyone there, would know not to trust somebody she doesn't recognize who's asking for an injured person she's in charge of. Certainly not somebody dressed in such attire as a soldier, when they're basically just chillin' in the manor at the moment.

I mean, I would hope.

My bigger concern at this point, is how she handles the situation if she knows not to trust him. As somebody stated earlier, Romulus may think she's just "the help", which would mean she's under a slave collar or other restrictions, requiring her to obey any commands given. If she doesn't, it may raise his suspicions. If she does, she might try to lead him elsewhere, but we know she lacks the confidence and espionage experience to really sell it. Or he could become suspicious before they even leave this room, where there is privacy for him to use... more violent means to get information. Being Clovis' minions, I doubt that's anywhere beneath them.
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Scow2 wrote: Mon May 10, 2021 9:34 am
Spazoid wrote: Mon May 10, 2021 6:16 am Fallout from this...Kat is in real danger and Eric comes to the defense/rescue....FINALLY realizing actual feelings for Kat.
He already has feelings for Kat - as Brother and Sister. He will never be her lover. She's not entitled to his romantic interest.
It could be other way around, he doesn't think he has the right, that it would be taking advantage of her to ask since he used to be "master" and she might say yes still under slave mindset. In our world it is considered wrong for a doctor to try to initiate romance with a patient and that is much less "taking advantage of position of authority".

I find it hypocritical that when both Kat and Eric have not said romantic interest in other it is all Erics fault.

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Kat might not know where everyone is, but it would be helpful if we did, so let’s see if we can line up the diverging timelines we have here. Conveniently, their identical wording suggests that the rumbling noise Kat hears in panel 3 is the same as the noise Brutus and Roan heard from the dungeons. Clovis shows up with them shortly after they hear this. In between his arrival and Reni’s arrival, Clovis has had enough time to exchange words with Roan, fire him, have a heart-to-heart with Brutus, shuffle him off this mortal coil and engage in a little self-reflection. So a relatively decent while, all things considered.

While Clovis heads down to the dungeons, Romulus and Remus are heading up to Sythe’s landing on the second floor. When we left off with Sythe, he was clearly an unreliable narrator (likely concussion and all) so we can’t actually tell how much time it took for the Remus and Nibbly saga to play out, as Remus is also conveniently incapacitated. Regardless, if Sythe is following Nibbly to Maren and by extension to the third floor, he’s unlikely to play a part in taking down Romulus here.

(Although we know that Maren, Trace, Flora, Stoneward, Rose and Detritus are still on the third floor, we have no indication how far things have progressed there by this point compared to the other timelines. All to Tom’s benefit, of course. If (for example) he wants to have Rose dramatically redirect the manor’s defenses to counter Detritus, he can time that moment to coincide with the end of the Oasis Room simulation, or the abrupt failure of Clovis’ amulet to fend off the manor’s defenses while fighting Reni, or Zen bonking Romulus over the head with a bedpan, or whatever else strikes his fancy. Trace and Flora’s timeline is floating freely, independent of the others, until Tom says otherwise.)

What was that rumbling noise Kat and Roan heard, then? I originally thought it was the sound of the roof being smashed. On page 1132, Roan seems to think it’s Reni. In that case it’s likely the muffled sound of a dragon roaring – something Roan would recognise from the Edinmire raid – rather than the sound of Reni breaking the roof, since Roan wouldn’t know about the Oasis Room incident. If Reni is out streaking on the grounds by the time of the Rumbling Noise, the beach party company should by then be out of the Oasis Room as well and on their way to a safe location. Where would they be heading? Maybe their rooms. Where, as of immediately after the Rumbling Noise, Kat is being confronted in her room* by Romulus.

Putting everything together, Clovis has had a decent time interval alone with his men beginning right after the Rumbling Noise and ending with Reni’s entrance. At the same time as Romulus’ encounter with Kat immediately after the Rumbling Noise, the beach party company are still in the vicinity of the Oasis Room. Unless Kat can find a way to drag things out past that decent time interval, it’s likely she won’t have any outside help. Or might she? We don’t actually know how far away the Oasis Room is from their rooms. It could be fairly close by and Nat, Keith and company might be just around the corner. Not to mention the possible influence of Zen, Lynn or Eric, all at present unaccounted for…

(Where is Zen, anyway? Aside from what Kat tells us about his sneaking out of bed, he’s supposed to be in the infirmary. If Kat directs Romulus to “Zen’s room” as requested, it will presumably be Zen-less. Unless Zen has been sneaking back to his room. Surely he wouldn’t do that… would he? Does he even have a room to sneak back to? He’s been in the infirmary since his arrival. Questions, questions!)

*Tom confirmed during the stream that this page takes place in Kat’s room.

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wowfood wrote: Wed May 12, 2021 9:23 am I'm kind've expecting an oblivious moment.

"Oh sure, I'm heading there myself to change the sheets, why don't you come with me?"

And then a panel of conversation as they make their way there, asking how he knows Zen, if he's a friend etc.

Flash to Zens room when the mansion shakes, "What's going on?" hobbles out of bed, gets to the door and hears Remus and Kat outside, prepares to ambush.
I find this unlikely. Kat may be oblivious about some things, but she knows Team A, she probably knows that wolves have attacked Edenmire, and depending how much she's talked with Natani and Zen, she might know about Clovis and his men. So I don't think she's that oblivious that she would trust a strange wolf she doesn't know.

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