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Don't forget that if Red is left with a Keith or a keidran, he'll eat them. If Maddie is left with Karen, she'll die of embarrassment. If Mike is left with Keith, he'll be turned into a girl. I'm not good enough at these sorts of things to figure it out, but I think it'll be more than four trips across the river!MuonNeutrino wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 1:54 am Hmmmm... this could get tricky. That's a possible way out, but how are they supposed to get to it? The manor is blocking Natani from teleporting and I don't think we've seen a fly or hover type spell, and absent that sort of thing Reni is the only one who can get up there. So even if the first panel of the next comic is an exterior shot of the mansion showing Reni blasting her way out a big hole in the roof, how is everyone *else* going to get out?
Reni doesn't have her saddlebags, and there'd likely be too many people for her to lift that way even if she had them. If she's stuck carrying people out one or two at a time in her claws, there's eight people in the Oasis room needing transport - Natani, Keith, Red, Raine, Mike, Evals, Karen, and Maddie. And a lot of the golems seem to have been focusing on Reni - if she's busy ferrying people, can Natani really hold off *all* of them (especially if he's already feeling the effects of mana burn) long enough for Reni to get everyone out? This whole 'tenuous possibility of escape but not everyone can get out at the same time' thing seems like a very ominous setup, narratively speaking. Of course, this whole chapter is just chock full of narratively ominous things in general, so that's par for the course I guess!
I hope you realise there's no way this can work — we don't have a chicken any more.aitaituo wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 2:01 am Don't forget that if Red is left with a Keith or a keidran, he'll eat them. If Maddie is left with Karen, she'll die of embarrassment. If Mike is left with Keith, he'll be turned into a girl. I'm not good enough at these sorts of things to figure it out, but I think it'll be more than four trips across the river!
Is Nibbly still in the room? I wouldn't be surprised if she tailed Sythe when he left with Maren earlier. Just an excuse to get away from the dragon...
Well considering brutus was about to eat one of them who is to say he did not get to the other before the spell brokeSpottedKitty wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 6:35 am
(Did we ever find out what the other wolf got turned into?)
I imagine she left earlier. She has been hinted to be more than a squirrel for a while now. So if it turns out she is indeed some eldritch abomination it would be a good moment for her to swoop in and "save" them.tony1695 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 11:38 am So, the escape route is accessible to only a single member of the party, or so it seems. Hard to imagine how they can really turn this to their advantage, unless the plan is to use chunks of the ceiling to flatten the golems. And while we don't know how thick the ceiling is, I doubt any pieces Reni can dislodge will really be capable of incapacitating the golems for any useful duration.
Is Nibbly still in the room? I wouldn't be surprised if she tailed Sythe when he left with Maren earlier. Just an excuse to get away from the dragon...
Actually, Trace made Flora levitate on the page 187. Too bad Natani is getting mana burned, Raine will probably have to try to fly them out. Let's hope she doesn't accidentally launch them to escape velocity.MuonNeutrino wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 1:54 am Hmmmm... this could get tricky. That's a possible way out, but how are they supposed to get to it? The manor is blocking Natani from teleporting and I don't think we've seen a fly or hover type spell, and absent that sort of thing Reni is the only one who can get up there. So even if the first panel of the next comic is an exterior shot of the mansion showing Reni blasting her way out a big hole in the roof, how is everyone *else* going to get out?
Reni doesn't have her saddlebags, and there'd likely be too many people for her to lift that way even if she had them. If she's stuck carrying people out one or two at a time in her claws, there's eight people in the Oasis room needing transport - Natani, Keith, Red, Raine, Mike, Evals, Karen, and Maddie. And a lot of the golems seem to have been focusing on Reni - if she's busy ferrying people, can Natani really hold off *all* of them (especially if he's already feeling the effects of mana burn) long enough for Reni to get everyone out? This whole 'tenuous possibility of escape but not everyone can get out at the same time' thing seems like a very ominous setup, narratively speaking. Of course, this whole chapter is just chock full of narratively ominous things in general, so that's par for the course I guess!
Oh that makes sense, Reni punches a hole in the Roof and Raine teleports everyone to safety. And it is quite a simple and effective plan to be honestYastreb wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 3:12 pmActually, Trace made Flora levitate on the page 187. Too bad Natani is getting mana burned, Raine will probably have to try to fly them out. Let's hope she doesn't accidentally launch them to escape velocity.MuonNeutrino wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 1:54 am Hmmmm... this could get tricky. That's a possible way out, but how are they supposed to get to it? The manor is blocking Natani from teleporting and I don't think we've seen a fly or hover type spell, and absent that sort of thing Reni is the only one who can get up there. So even if the first panel of the next comic is an exterior shot of the mansion showing Reni blasting her way out a big hole in the roof, how is everyone *else* going to get out?
Reni doesn't have her saddlebags, and there'd likely be too many people for her to lift that way even if she had them. If she's stuck carrying people out one or two at a time in her claws, there's eight people in the Oasis room needing transport - Natani, Keith, Red, Raine, Mike, Evals, Karen, and Maddie. And a lot of the golems seem to have been focusing on Reni - if she's busy ferrying people, can Natani really hold off *all* of them (especially if he's already feeling the effects of mana burn) long enough for Reni to get everyone out? This whole 'tenuous possibility of escape but not everyone can get out at the same time' thing seems like a very ominous setup, narratively speaking. Of course, this whole chapter is just chock full of narratively ominous things in general, so that's par for the course I guess!
Except Raine has literally no magical training whatsoever. There's a chance Reni could do it from up there, given that she's a dragon, but I doubt if she has that kind of skill at this point in her life. Natani probably could, if he set a waypoint somewhere, but there is a lot of people down there, and he's getting pretty burnt out. Red might know how, but he's about as capable as a stick of dynamite.Technic[Bot] wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:19 am Oh that makes sense, Reni punches a hole in the Roof and Raine teleports everyone to safety. And it is quite a simple and effective plan to be honest
She has teleport them before so there is precedent. She also teleported Carter to the other half of the work when she really put her shoulder into it. I am confident that such a distance with line of sight and some concentration she can pull it off. Even if not all of them she can pick a few and let Reni carry the rest. Of course that depend if she manages to trust herself for more than 20 seconds straight.Bellhead wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 9:03 pmExcept Raine has literally no magical training whatsoever. There's a chance Reni could do it from up there, given that she's a dragon, but I doubt if she has that kind of skill at this point in her life. Natani probably could, if he set a waypoint somewhere, but there is a lot of people down there, and he's getting pretty burnt out. Red might know how, but he's about as capable as a stick of dynamite.Technic[Bot] wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:19 am Oh that makes sense, Reni punches a hole in the Roof and Raine teleports everyone to safety. And it is quite a simple and effective plan to be honest
There's also the chance that Reni could somehow stop what's happening from the outside.
Keep in mind that teleportation is being blocked - Natani already tried that. (Which also presumably means that Natani - the properly paranoid assassin - *did* set up a waypoint somewhere, like he did on the island. Seems in character for him.) Nobody is teleporting anywhere, so the question is more whether someone can hover or fly them up in some way. I didn't remember the instance of Trace holding flora up with telekinesis way back on page 187, though I don't think we've seen if it's possible to levitate *yourself* with telekinesis. Either way, no teleportation though.Technic[Bot] wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 9:19 pmShe has teleport them before so there is precedent. She also teleported Carter to the other half of the work when she really put her shoulder into it. I am confident that such a distance with line of sight and some concentration she can pull it off. Even if not all of them she can pick a few and let Reni carry the rest. Of course that depend if she manages to trust herself for more than 20 seconds straight.Bellhead wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 9:03 pmExcept Raine has literally no magical training whatsoever. There's a chance Reni could do it from up there, given that she's a dragon, but I doubt if she has that kind of skill at this point in her life. Natani probably could, if he set a waypoint somewhere, but there is a lot of people down there, and he's getting pretty burnt out. Red might know how, but he's about as capable as a stick of dynamite.Technic[Bot] wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:19 am Oh that makes sense, Reni punches a hole in the Roof and Raine teleports everyone to safety. And it is quite a simple and effective plan to be honest
There's also the chance that Reni could somehow stop what's happening from the outside.
Does the name Saraphina ring any bells?MuonNeutrino wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 11:34 pmthough I don't think we've seen if it's possible to levitate *yourself* with telekinesis.