Comic for May 9th, 2020: The Abandoned Nursery
Posted: Sat May 09, 2020 11:58 pm
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Others have speculated that Saria was pregnant when she died, so Trace lost both wife and child in one fell swoop.Cpt. H.L. Rodney wrote: ↑Sun May 10, 2020 12:14 amBut this, what does it imply? That Flora's baby *isn't* Trace's firstborn after all!? I hope that's not the case, it has more impact being the first child Trace ever has, in my opinion. Maybe he and Saria were making preparations before they tried getting pregnant?
There was speculation in the past that the reason Trace was so desperate to save Saria was that she was pregnant, and that the loss of both is what sent him right off the deep end.Cpt. H.L. Rodney wrote: ↑Sun May 10, 2020 12:14 am But this, what does it imply? That Flora's baby *isn't* Trace's firstborn after all!? I hope that's not the case, it has more impact being the first child Trace ever has, in my opinion. Maybe he and Saria were making preparations before they tried getting pregnant?
I would note that this is probably what old!Trace meant by "for the birthday" in Stoney's creation discussion, since they wouldn't have known if the kid was male or female yet. I'd guess that would also come much closer to confirming Saria was still around at that point because of the language used.Bellhead wrote: ↑Sun May 10, 2020 1:02 am Welp, that settles it. Trace's reaction says he knew Saria either wanted a child or died with one, speculation confirmed. Good thing Flora's there, he's going to need some serious support in 3.. 2..
On another note, this is one hell of a bombshell. Neither Saria's ghost nor Nora's explanation gave any hint of a child... Possible this part of the story was added after, or that both of them knew better than to awaken the memories that drove him three steps past madness. But now Euchre's warning makes a LOT more sense, if we assume he knew about all this.
Trace's expression, though... It's not just grief. It's fear and worry, with a hint of hidden anger and a dose of utter shock. He needs somebody, whether he realizes or or not, so it's a good thing Flora's standing right beside him. But as good of an emotional anchor as she is for him, she might not be enough for him to hold on to, and that's saying something. This page actually scared me a little bit.
I am a bit surprised he went with the child idea here. That [expletive] is dark. But I do wonder about the details. Were they expecting a children or just trying to get pregnant? Did any of them knew Saria was with child before she died? After all she did not look pregnant at all in previos flashbacks, nor her ghost seemed aware of itBellhead wrote: ↑Sun May 10, 2020 1:02 am Welp, that settles it. Trace's reaction says he knew Saria either wanted a child or died with one, speculation confirmed. Good thing Flora's there, he's going to need some serious support in 3.. 2..
On another note, this is one hell of a bombshell. Neither Saria's ghost nor Nora's explanation gave any hint of a child... Possible this part of the story was added after, or that both of them knew better than to awaken the memories that drove him three steps past madness. But now Euchre's warning makes a LOT more sense, if we assume he knew about all this.
Trace's expression, though... It's not just grief. It's fear and worry, with a hint of hidden anger and a dose of utter shock. He needs somebody, whether he realizes or or not, so it's a good thing Flora's standing right beside him. But as good of an emotional anchor as she is for him, she might not be enough for him to hold on to, and that's saying something. This page actually scared me a little bit.
Squick!Technic[Bot] wrote: ↑Sun May 10, 2020 2:31 am Also if that is the case does he wanted Maren to carry his child to birth? That is horrible and disgusting.
Needless to say, it's scaring me too I'm terrified of her not being enough, and hoping for the exact opposite, she just can't lose Trace to that [censored] that is his old self already ;n; Not after they just got engagedBellhead wrote: ↑Sun May 10, 2020 1:02 am Welp, that settles it. Trace's reaction says he knew Saria either wanted a child or died with one, speculation confirmed. Good thing Flora's there, he's going to need some serious support in 3.. 2..
On another note, this is one hell of a bombshell. Neither Saria's ghost nor Nora's explanation gave any hint of a child... Possible this part of the story was added after, or that both of them knew better than to awaken the memories that drove him three steps past madness. But now Euchre's warning makes a LOT more sense, if we assume he knew about all this.
Trace's expression, though... It's not just grief. It's fear and worry, with a hint of hidden anger and a dose of utter shock. He needs somebody, whether he realizes or or not, so it's a good thing Flora's standing right beside him. But as good of an emotional anchor as she is for him, she might not be enough for him to hold on to, and that's saying something. This page actually scared me a little bit.
I think we can safely assume it's absolute horror. I mean, that old trauma turned old-Trace into a full on dark lord, genocidal and obsessed with the darkness magical stuff he could find. It made him abandon everything to commit entirely to the goal of resurrecting his little one, for which he jumped every slippery slope in existence without a though... And that was years after that. He had quite a lot of time to somewhat process it all (even if he never got over it). Here present-Trace has it all shoved back into his mind in a split second and no warning before hand.Bellhead wrote: ↑Sun May 10, 2020 1:02 am Trace's expression, though... It's not just grief. It's fear and worry, with a hint of hidden anger and a dose of utter shock. He needs somebody, whether he realizes or or not, so it's a good thing Flora's standing right beside him. But as good of an emotional anchor as she is for him, she might not be enough for him to hold on to, and that's saying something. This page actually scared me a little bit.
Indeed it must have been added later. Not a true retcon but some kind of "addition into the still available space".Bellhead wrote: ↑Sun May 10, 2020 1:02 am On another note, this is one hell of a bombshell. Neither Saria's ghost nor Nora's explanation gave any hint of a child... Possible this part of the story was added after, or that both of them knew better than to awaken the memories that drove him three steps past madness. But now Euchre's warning makes a LOT more sense, if we assume he knew about all this.
I'm just as surprised as you. At the time I posted that little theory just to express what I though would look cool, and was sure Tom was going for something more "SFW"... Not that I'm complaining, but it's a shock to me too.Technic[Bot] wrote: ↑Sun May 10, 2020 2:31 am I am a bit surprised he went with the child idea here. That [expletive] is dark. But I do wonder about the details. Were they expecting a children or just trying to get pregnant? Did any of them knew Saria was with child before she died? After all she did not look pregnant at all in previous flashbacks, nor her ghost seemed aware of it
Also this puts a new perspective on what is in his necromancy chamber, since we know Sarias grave is somewhere else perhaps along her body, then whatever is on the room might be his unborn child. And I thought Tom pulling an Bloodborne's Arianna with Flora was the worse it could get.
Also if that is the case does he wanted Maren to carry his child to birth? That is horrible and disgusting. Well who knows maybe they did not get to the point of pregnancy and Trace just wanted to recreate Saria using Maren and then have a child with her wife doppelgänger. I mean that is still pretty horrible but slightly less worse maybe?
Anon: Hey Trace, I heard you were cobbling something for the little one yourself. What is it?Ddraig wrote: ↑Sun May 10, 2020 1:14 am I would note that this is probably what old!Trace meant by "for the birthday" in Stoney's creation discussion, since they wouldn't have known if the kid was male or female yet. I'd guess that would also come much closer to confirming Saria was still around at that point because of the language used.
I think he did not wanted the stone golem for his child. Nora simply decided to give it to him with the excuse of "the birthday"BadJoke wrote: ↑Sun May 10, 2020 3:52 pm Anon: Hey Trace, I heard you were cobbling something for the little one yourself. What is it?
Trace: Oh nothing much. Just a two meter high, over powered, stone lizard golem infused with an autonomous mind and obedient temper to keep him/her safe at night, and shinning eyes to serve as night-lights. I even needed a little help with it.
Anon: .......Are you sure it will be actually safer?