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Comic for February 15th, 2020: Formal Proposal

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Reds reaction is prettty much what I expected of him :P

Also, [censored]`s about to go down
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I am not looking forward to the drama that will ensue from the marriage of Flora and Trace. I love the idea of them marrying but I am not happy with the idea of a lot of humans using mob action to protest which I'm sure they would in this story.
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One of the first "web comics" I ever found while on deployment 06-07. Hell, second of what became the "Furry Funnies" in my favorites. Devout follower ever since, been waiting a long time for this. Final note, Red just became an incel.

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One of the first "web comics" I ever found while on deployment 06-07. Hell, second of what became the "Furry Funnies" in my favorites. Devout follower ever since, been waiting a long time for this. Final note, Red just became an incel.
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Well turns out i was wrong. They did had time to kiss and technically he gave her the engagements ring subtleseed necklace month ago so they did had time fro a formal proposal. But i think the wedding will have to wait for a while. Personally I think the comic will either end on their wedding ceremony, or in Trace funeral. That is my prediction, from your humble mexican oracle.
Anyhow I did not expected Reni to be the one to object in this case, she might be a dragon but i do not think she was raised as such...
Reni wrote: I… I’m not sure how to react. A part of me wishes non-humans could be more open with humans… (Not me! I - I mean others…)
But with the war, marrying a Keidran…
So by extension part of her would rather the races to stop coexisting/fraternize with others, or was that just a form of speech or what she is exactly talking about? I mean sure ignoring that neighbor you hate is definitely better that breaking into his house and beating him up but is hardly a real solution to the problem.
Also what does she exactly mean with "more open"? From context I imagine she is talking about interracial relationships but i cannot imagine a more vague way of saying that.
Although she has a valid point, marriage is a not something you really wanna do in times of war, i tis a logistical hassle and that is something they definitely do not have time for right now, even if the state were not about to be breached. but those two would have gotten married even if martians had invaded mekkan.
It is good we are finally moving forward thought with all the light hardheartedness of the past pages it is easy to forget the comic does some quite direct racial allegories and social commentary which it usually wear in its sleeve. That is one of the things i like the most about it. It is not just kitty people has something to say.
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This cute marriage proposal makes me think of the time Flora gave Trace the kitten eyes to convince him to help her help Euchre.
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Hulk10 wrote:
Sun Feb 16, 2020 2:41 am
This cute marriage proposal makes me think of the time Flora gave Trace the kitten eyes to convince him to help her help Euchre.
Reminds me more of their first night together, both early in the comic and during the anniversary chapter.

*que Trace: "I'm so confused."

But yeah. Red's reaction was expected, Reni's was not. Her shock definitely took me by surprise. Either way, I'm glad they got through that, before the [censored] hit the fan. They deserved at least that much, after all the crap they went through up to this point.

Also, Raine's ears came back. I guess she was shocked, probably only ever heard racist things about him...
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#10 Post by IHeartMaeve »

Well, I'm just gonna say this now. This is adorable as heck, but the ending panel can't symbolize anything good about to happen.

Also, good for Trace, not caring what people will think of him for doing something so apparently outlandish as marrying a Keidran. Let's all take a step back and consider this a good life lesson: "If it's something you really want to do, you shouldn't care what others will think about you."
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Bellhead wrote:
Sun Feb 16, 2020 2:53 am
Hulk10 wrote:
Sun Feb 16, 2020 2:41 am
This cute marriage proposal makes me think of the time Flora gave Trace the kitten eyes to convince him to help her help Euchre.
Reminds me more of their first night together, both early in the comic and during the anniversary chapter.

*que Trace: "I'm so confused."

But yeah. Red's reaction was expected, Reni's was not. Her shock definitely took me by surprise. Either way, I'm glad they got through that, before the [censored] hit the fan. They deserved at least that much, after all the crap they went through up to this point.

Also, Raine's ears came back. I guess she was shocked, probably only ever heard racist things about him...
Reni's comments have me worried though.
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Technic[Bot] wrote:
Sun Feb 16, 2020 1:13 am
Well turns out i was wrong. They did had time to kiss and technically he gave her the engagements ring subtleseed necklace month ago so they did had time fro a formal proposal. But i think the wedding will have to wait for a while. Personally I think the comic will either end on their wedding ceremony, or in Trace funeral. That is my prediction, from your humble mexican oracle.
Anyhow I did not expected Reni to be the one to object in this case, she might be a dragon but i do not think she was raised as such...
Reni wrote: I… I’m not sure how to react. A part of me wishes non-humans could be more open with humans… (Not me! I - I mean others…)
But with the war, marrying a Keidran…
So by extension part of her would rather the races to stop coexisting/fraternize with others, or was that just a form of speech or what she is exactly talking about? I mean sure ignoring that neighbor you hate is definitely better that breaking into his house and beating him up but is hardly a real solution to the problem.
Also what does she exactly mean with "more open"? From context I imagine she is talking about interracial relationships but i cannot imagine a more vague way of saying that.
Although she has a valid point, marriage is a not something you really wanna do in times of war, i tis a logistical hassle and that is something they definitely do not have time for right now, even if the state were not about to be breached. but those two would have gotten married even if martians had invaded mekkan.
It is good we are finally moving forward thought with all the light hardheartedness of the past pages it is easy to forget the comic does some quite direct racial allegories and social commentary which it usually wear in its sleeve. That is one of the things i like the most about it. It is not just kitty people has something to say.
Three important aspects of Reni is that (1) she's a Royal Dragon (the descendant of a human/dragon pairing), who (2) has lived only among Humans, and (3) she's shy and not open about her feelings (see: her interaction with Kei Eclipse linked to).

"I… I’m not sure how to react. A part of me wishes non-humans could be more open with humans… "
She's saying part of her would rather have the races openly coexisting and fraternizing with the others.

"(Not me! I - I mean others…)"
She felt the need to specify that she, personally, had no interest in fraternizing with Humans (and she's just the biggest liar about her feelings since Natani, but I digress),

"But with the war, marrying a Keidran…"
Part of her feels the timing of the marriage isn't good because of the war between the Templars and the Wolves. She isn't wrong, IMO. The Grand Templar marrying a Tiger Keidran is going to all but confirm to the Wolves that the Templar and the Tiger Tribe have forged an Alliance against them and be seen as a huge betrayal, true or not (especially since the tiger girl in question was betrothed to a wolf Noble fairly recently to seal an alliance between the tigers and wolves!) Not to mention that among humans, a relationship with a Keidran, a "filthy beast!", would only be accepted if you kept it quiet and private. Not only having an open relationship, but marrying one, would probably not be accepted easily (See the 9th American Vice-President Richard Mentor Johnson for example).

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Bellhead wrote:
Sun Feb 16, 2020 2:53 am
Hulk10 wrote:
Sun Feb 16, 2020 2:41 am
This cute marriage proposal makes me think of the time Flora gave Trace the kitten eyes to convince him to help her help Euchre.
But yeah. Red's reaction was expected, Reni's was not. Her shock definitely took me by surprise. Either way, I'm glad they got through that, before the [censored] hit the fan. They deserved at least that much, after all the crap they went through up to this point.
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Sun Feb 16, 2020 1:13 am
Anyhow I did not expected Reni to be the one to object in this case, she might be a dragon but i do not think she was raised as such...
Reni wrote: I… I’m not sure how to react. A part of me wishes non-humans could be more open with humans… (Not me! I - I mean others…)
But with the war, marrying a Keidran…
So by extension part of her would rather the races to stop coexisting/fraternize with others, or was that just a form of speech or what she is exactly talking about? I mean sure ignoring that neighbor you hate is definitely better that breaking into his house and beating him up but is hardly a real solution to the problem.
Also what does she exactly mean with "more open"? From context I imagine she is talking about interracial relationships but i cannot imagine a more vague way of saying that.
Although she has a valid point, marriage is a not something you really wanna do in times of war, i tis a logistical hassle and that is something they definitely do not have time for right now, even if the state were not about to be breached. but those two would have gotten married even if martians had invaded mekkan.
It is good we are finally moving forward thought with all the light hardheartedness of the past pages it is easy to forget the comic does some quite direct racial allegories and social commentary which it usually wear in its sleeve. That is one of the things i like the most about it. It is not just kitty people has something to say.
I think the point that Tom is trying to drive home is that even being among close friends the idea of them marrying is still that unorthodox. In that they are upending the very fabric of society by even suggesting it, not even withstanding Trace being the former Grand Templar. That much even has been mentioned before. It’s a social mind-[censored] (excuse my french). :P

Reni’s dialog imo is a bit colored by her own bashfulness I think on the the topic of human/nonhuman relations. There haven’t been many sensitive topics that haven’t triggered a strong blush and some flustered wing flaps on her part.

At least that’s my take on it. It’s the teensy tip of the iceberg to the social deluge it’s bound to cause. Not to mention backlash and/or outright hostility. In the midst of an ongoing war, might not make that much difference, but adds another front to an already deteriorating situation... and also a fairly elegant solution. What’s important is that they are among friends, quite a few of which are on the same trajectory relationship-wise. They are the best brothers-in-arms any each of them could ask for.

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Technic[Bot] wrote:
Sun Feb 16, 2020 1:13 am
Anyhow I did not expected Reni to be the one to object in this case, she might be a dragon but i do not think she was raised as such...
Reni wrote: I… I’m not sure how to react. A part of me wishes non-humans could be more open with humans… (Not me! I - I mean others…)
But with the war, marrying a Keidran…
So by extension part of her would rather the races to stop coexisting/fraternize with others, or was that just a form of speech or what she is exactly talking about? I mean sure ignoring that neighbor you hate is definitely better that breaking into his house and beating him up but is hardly a real solution to the problem.
I read that as "I want to be happy for them, but given the situation, I know they're going to be in for a load of trouble" or "That's great that they love each other, but doing so will cause them a lot of distress from society"
She's definitely being careful about what she says, embarrassed to admit she's in a similar (if not the same) situation.

Or, in a more explicit way of saying it, "Part of me is happy for them, part of me is worried"
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#15 Post by steelabjur »

CrRAR wrote:
Sun Feb 16, 2020 3:33 am
Bellhead wrote:
Sun Feb 16, 2020 2:53 am
Hulk10 wrote:
Sun Feb 16, 2020 2:41 am
This cute marriage proposal makes me think of the time Flora gave Trace the kitten eyes to convince him to help her help Euchre.
But yeah. Red's reaction was expected, Reni's was not. Her shock definitely took me by surprise. Either way, I'm glad they got through that, before the [censored] hit the fan. They deserved at least that much, after all the crap they went through up to this point.
Technic[Bot] wrote:
Sun Feb 16, 2020 1:13 am
Anyhow I did not expected Reni to be the one to object in this case, she might be a dragon but i do not think she was raised as such...
Reni wrote: I… I’m not sure how to react. A part of me wishes non-humans could be more open with humans… (Not me! I - I mean others…)
But with the war, marrying a Keidran…
So by extension part of her would rather the races to stop coexisting/fraternize with others, or was that just a form of speech or what she is exactly talking about? I mean sure ignoring that neighbor you hate is definitely better that breaking into his house and beating him up but is hardly a real solution to the problem.
Also what does she exactly mean with "more open"? From context I imagine she is talking about interracial relationships but i cannot imagine a more vague way of saying that.
Although she has a valid point, marriage is a not something you really wanna do in times of war, i tis a logistical hassle and that is something they definitely do not have time for right now, even if the state were not about to be breached. but those two would have gotten married even if martians had invaded mekkan.
It is good we are finally moving forward thought with all the light hardheartedness of the past pages it is easy to forget the comic does some quite direct racial allegories and social commentary which it usually wear in its sleeve. That is one of the things i like the most about it. It is not just kitty people has something to say.
I think the point that Tom is trying to drive home is that even being among close friends the idea of them marrying is still that unorthodox. In that they are upending the very fabric of society by even suggesting it, not even withstanding Trace being the former Grand Templar. That much even has been mentioned before. It’s a social [censored] (excuse my french). :P

Reni’s dialog imo is a bit is colored by her own bashfulness I think on the the topic of human/nonhuman relations. There haven’t been many sensitive topics that haven’t triggered a strong blush and some flustered wing flaps on her part.

At least that’s my take on it. It’s the teensy tip of the iceberg to the social deluge it’s bound to cause.

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Yeah, I think Red's playing the "everyman" here, how your average human Mekkan bloke would react to one of their friends stating that they want to marry a Keidran. I think even he'll eventually get over his prejudice as he realizes that the Wolf aspect of Raine is as much a part of her as her arm and in order to truly love her, he needs to love all of her, including her fluffy side.

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