Comic for November 3, 2018: Planning for Home
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Comic for November 3, 2018: Planning for Home
Calling it now; Going to have a pseudeo-heartbreaking moment where Mike and Evals are about to go their separate ways, only for Evals' hopes of returning to the dog territory get crushed and he tags along with the others to Lyn'Knoll (while secretly relieved that he gets to stay with Mike)
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Re: Comic for November 3, 2018: Planning for Home
Waitaminute, is that Fem!Mike we see as Mike's reflection, considering the blue eyes and the slightly longer hair, considering Mike's eyes were a brownish-gray in the previous page? I sense some potential foreshadowing!
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The way this page almost seems like it's *emphasizing* how content Evals is looking in the last panel, I have a feeling he's getting a rude awakening next page. Mike doesn't want to go to keidran lands. With the war and him being a canine keidran it's unlikely he'd be able to stay in human lands as he was expressing there, but in that case Lyn'knoll would definitely be the second option that'd fit him best. With how flippant Evals is being here, I think he might have almost forgotten that Mike had said that. He wouldn't be too broken up about going separate ways from most of the cast - most of them are barely more than acquaintances for him and Mike really, he can't wait to see the last of Eric, and while he of course doesn't wish Kat any ill it doesn't seem like they're particularly close - but I don't think that he'd be nearly so cheerful about being separated from Mike. But Mike obviously *is* contemplating it. That second panel, it seems to me that he was *about* to say "This might be the last time we see each other." He doesn't want to be separated from Evals either, but he doesn't want to go where he's going.
Also, I find it amusing that the water dripping off Flora's ear is splashing imaginary Eric's shoulder.
Also, I find it amusing that the water dripping off Flora's ear is splashing imaginary Eric's shoulder.
I think it's just the blue of the water. Mike's eyes are normally grey, so they're picking up the color because they don't have any color of their own - the same thing is happening with the white parts of his fur, just not as strongly. And I don't think his hair is any longer, it's shoulder length in both cases.Waitaminute, is that Fem!Mike we see as Mike's reflection, considering the blue eyes and the slightly longer hair, considering Mike's eyes were a brownish-gray in the previous page? I sense some potential foreshadowing!
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See evals, now that you said something like that, something horrible is gonna happen and you're never gonna go home
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Re: Comic for November 3, 2018: Planning for Home
Oh Evals, don't you know that these things never go according to plan? I wouldn't write off Lyn'knoll that easily if I were you.
And yeah, I don't think Mike really wants to go to dog territory.
And yeah, I don't think Mike really wants to go to dog territory.
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Hmmm , i don't think i would have trust in Eric for such thing . The other gal is surely a slave trader too
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That's a dumb plan for any number of reasons -- but the presentation of it as anything but is mostly just a whole lot of Unwarranted Evals Optimism (TM) getting layered on top of that double-conditional 'might be able to pull some strings once the port's fixed', so that works as presented. The part that's actually bothering me is... how does the scene of Evals going to Eric asking for help go? Because I don't quite see him doing that, and I don't see Eric going out of his way to offer, either. Don't necessarily see him being willing to help, either, but then, what he apparently said isn't exactly a commitment.
But yeah, the last we had from Eric was "In any case, good luck to the two of you, wherever you're headed from here." How did we get from there to here? Evals is very willing to push any advantage, real or perceived, that he has, but I would not have thought it extended to actually asking Eric for something directly. I guess it must have, but...
Anyway, the fact that this is explicitly Evals' plan -- and I bet he won't shut up about it for long, either -- goes a ways to explaining why Mike is being so mopey. I wonder if he's been ramping it up more and more waiting for Evals to notice How many Meaningful Sighs does it take to get to the center of a clueless dog? All of them, probably.
But yeah, the last we had from Eric was "In any case, good luck to the two of you, wherever you're headed from here." How did we get from there to here? Evals is very willing to push any advantage, real or perceived, that he has, but I would not have thought it extended to actually asking Eric for something directly. I guess it must have, but...
Anyway, the fact that this is explicitly Evals' plan -- and I bet he won't shut up about it for long, either -- goes a ways to explaining why Mike is being so mopey. I wonder if he's been ramping it up more and more waiting for Evals to notice How many Meaningful Sighs does it take to get to the center of a clueless dog? All of them, probably.
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Re: Comic for November 3, 2018: Planning for Home
Especialy when said dog territory is like, you know, bordering a war zone with the biggest empire of your world which may soon enact massive bloody revenge if they ever win the war... and where foxes are regarded as slaves anyway...
And even if Eric is to be trusted, can the same be said about that gal?
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Didn't Tom say that Dog Keidran hate Fox Keidran? Why would Mike want to go there?
Mike might try to find his way to Fox territory, or try to stay somewhere sorta tolerant/less oppressive within human territory (like Maeve and Adira), but, why would he make the effort and take the risk just to travel to a place where he will be treated like trash?
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Yeah I don't trust Eric either.
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Re: Comic for November 3, 2018: Planning for Home
For the last three panels we had been wondering about what Mike would do without Evals. But we kinda forgot about him. Sure we knew he wanted to go home but the "how" was something nobody wondered about mainly because we assumed that with the war he would be unable to return home. Now we know he is very determined to get back.
Also Evals is noticing that something is wrong with his best friend and should spend 5 minutes out of his bubble to sort it out unless he plans on a very lonely trip back home. And on the other hand Mike should grow some and directly tell Evals, that no, he does not want to go to Keidran territory, but does not want to lose him either. Granted he might not want to have a response for that. Effectively Evals has to choose between his best friend, and his family homeland and other friends. Mike might not like what Evals end up choosing.
Gee these two seem like a married couple.
And him asking help from Eric? Well war makes for strange bedfellows doesn't it? He really does not like the idea but it is the best he has got.
In any case as you point out most of the plans depends on a lot of big IFS, so most likely he won't be able to return and will have to tag along the rest of the group.
You do not care about me! the only reason you came along was because you could not return to YOUR home, you were ready to leave me there, alone!
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Or something like that. My point is that unless these sort that one out Mike might end up feeling betrayed by his best friend and only family.
Also Evals is noticing that something is wrong with his best friend and should spend 5 minutes out of his bubble to sort it out unless he plans on a very lonely trip back home. And on the other hand Mike should grow some and directly tell Evals, that no, he does not want to go to Keidran territory, but does not want to lose him either. Granted he might not want to have a response for that. Effectively Evals has to choose between his best friend, and his family homeland and other friends. Mike might not like what Evals end up choosing.
Gee these two seem like a married couple.
For us almost omniscient reader it might sound like a pretty stupid plan but for him it is probably the best he can get if he pretend to return home. For him Lyn'Knoll is just some weird fairytale people too naive to believe in equality tell to themselves.Also the fact that this Lyn'Knoll is also Trace's plan/idea/destination does not bode well for him, not only Trace is a VIP fugitive, whom disaster seem to follow but is probably the least sane person he ever knew. Even before he meet the chap Trace was the local Hitler going around his ethnic cleansing, the guy Keidran told horror stories about, and now that he met him is just this weird simpleton, dating a tigress, who is too stupid to realize he is being cheated upon. ( At least from Evals perspective). I do not know about you but with that prospect i would run in the opposite direction of these guys war or no war.amenon wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 7:38 am That's a dumb plan for any number of reasons -- but the presentation of it as anything but is mostly just a whole lot of Unwarranted Evals Optimism (TM) getting layered on top of that double-conditional 'might be able to pull some strings once the port's fixed', so that works as presented. The part that's actually bothering me is... how does the scene of Evals going to Eric asking for help go? Because I don't quite see him doing that, and I don't see Eric going out of his way to offer, either. Don't necessarily see him being willing to help, either, but then, what he apparently said isn't exactly a commitment.
But yeah, the last we had from Eric was "In any case, good luck to the two of you, wherever you're headed from here." How did we get from there to here? Evals is very willing to push any advantage, real or perceived, that he has, but I would not have thought it extended to actually asking Eric for something directly. I guess it must have, but...
Anyway, the fact that this is explicitly Evals' plan -- and I bet he won't shut up about it for long, either -- goes a ways to explaining why Mike is being so mopey. I wonder if he's been ramping it up more and more waiting for Evals to notice How many Meaningful Sighs does it take to get to the center of a clueless dog? All of them, probably.
And him asking help from Eric? Well war makes for strange bedfellows doesn't it? He really does not like the idea but it is the best he has got.
In any case as you point out most of the plans depends on a lot of big IFS, so most likely he won't be able to return and will have to tag along the rest of the group.
That depends if these two don't sit down and have a proper chat about what this whole issue i am afraid it will blow in their faces in the not so distant future:jacobc62 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 12:21 am Calling it now; Going to have a pseudeo-heartbreaking moment where Mike and Evals are about to go their separate ways, only for Evals' hopes of returning to the dog territory get crushed and he tags along with the others to Lyn'Knoll (while secretly relieved that he gets to stay with Mike)
You do not care about me! the only reason you came along was because you could not return to YOUR home, you were ready to leave me there, alone!
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Or something like that. My point is that unless these sort that one out Mike might end up feeling betrayed by his best friend and only family.
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Re: Comic for November 3, 2018: Planning for Home
Elemental Templar wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 12:05 am Calling it now; Going to have a pseudeo-heartbreaking moment where Mike and Evals are about to go their separate ways, only for Evals' hopes of returning to the dog territory get crushed and he tags along with the others to Lyn'Knoll (while secretly relieved that he gets to stay with Mike)
Deaththekat wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 1:03 am See evals, now that you said something like that, something horrible is gonna happen and you're never gonna go home
Technic[Bot] wrote: ↑Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:37 amThat depends if these two don't sit down and have a proper chat about what this whole issue i am afraid it will blow in their faces in the not so distant future:jacobc62 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 12:21 am Calling it now; Going to have a pseudeo-heartbreaking moment where Mike and Evals are about to go their separate ways, only for Evals' hopes of returning to the dog territory get crushed and he tags along with the others to Lyn'Knoll (while secretly relieved that he gets to stay with Mike)
You do not care about me! the only reason you came along was because you could not return to YOUR home, you were ready to leave me there, alone!
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Or something like that. My point is that unless these sort that one out Mike might end up feeling betrayed by his best friend and only family.
BadJoke wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 7:50 amEspecialy when said dog territory is like, you know, bordering a war zone with the biggest empire of your world which may soon enact massive bloody revenge if they ever win the war... and where foxes are regarded as slaves anyway...
And even if Eric is to be trusted, can the same be said about that gal?
I began writing... and then I wrote some more. This could be further expanded... some tough revelations about the realities of his homeland or something... but it got long enough for what I set out to do. I kinda like it.amenon wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 7:38 am That's a dumb plan for any number of reasons -- [snip]
Anyway, the fact that this is explicitly Evals' plan -- and I bet he won't shut up about it for long, either -- goes a ways to explaining why Mike is being so mopey. I wonder if he's been ramping it up more and more waiting for Evals to notice How many Meaningful Sighs does it take to get to the center of a clueless dog? All of them, probably.
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Re: Comic for November 3, 2018: Planning for Home
i wouldn't trust eric even if he was the last non-hostile person in the world.
evals seems to be extremely selfish... he doesn't realize how much his presence means to mike, or how scared and hurt mike is by the idea of losing him and probably everyone else.
i'm willing to bet his plans aren't gonna go all that well... he'll probably be stuck with the group, or he'll end up as a slave again, or possibly get killed.
we've waited so long for the two groups to make contact, and now that they have, splitting everyone up seems like such a sad thing to do.
i really want to hug mike... he's just so sad and adorable, i love him.
evals seems to be extremely selfish... he doesn't realize how much his presence means to mike, or how scared and hurt mike is by the idea of losing him and probably everyone else.
i'm willing to bet his plans aren't gonna go all that well... he'll probably be stuck with the group, or he'll end up as a slave again, or possibly get killed.
we've waited so long for the two groups to make contact, and now that they have, splitting everyone up seems like such a sad thing to do.
i really want to hug mike... he's just so sad and adorable, i love him.
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I may eventually have a very low trust in Eric about it ..... that means really NO trust in the other gal
Evals isn't selfish , but he sees Mike only as a good friend . So , he can let the fox go his way while he comes back at home without problems ............. He's never understood/realized that he's the one "family" Mike has got since he's born slaveZeroJinKui wrote: ↑Mon Nov 05, 2018 10:08 am i wouldn't trust eric even if he was the last non-hostile person in the world.
evals seems to be extremely selfish... he doesn't realize how much his presence means to mike, or how scared and hurt mike is by the idea of losing him and probably everyone else.
i really want to hug mike... he's just so sad and adorable, i love him.
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Hug the precious smol bean. Do it now.ZeroJinKui wrote: ↑Mon Nov 05, 2018 10:08 am i really want to hug mike... he's just so sad and adorable, i love him.
For realsies, though, this is going to be a very uncomfortable discussion between them. Unless some magical solution presents itself (sort of a situational Reni?) I don't see any outcome leaving them both entirely happy. And we can't forget the Rule of Drama, which stipulates that the best laid plans of mice and men--or wolves and foxes, as the case may be--rarely go off without a hitch.
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