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Re: TwoKinds [of] data

#61 Post by Technic[Bot] »

So after sifting over my data for a couple days at last, the final one ( not counting old forum) Twitter.
I made this graphs from data i collected from the official twokinds twitter account. I filtered so only tweets dealing with comic pages, and special filler such as anniversaries were part of the graph. Unfortunately I cannot garantee only those tweets were inside the dataset. Processing this real world free form data is really hard and lest i check every single tweet by hand there is no way to remove all instances of unwanted data, which is unfortunately a lot Tom does uses the twitter account for a couple more things than only posting the comic pages.

Anyhow if you have not seen the previous posts here is how the graphs are structured:
X-axis is date, y axis is a metric in this case either replies, retweets or likes . Events or extrema are marked with a yellow triangle. These are tweets when comments/score exceeded 2 standard deviations from the mean, or in other words these are tweets that got a lot more attention than the average. Mean is marked with solid orange line and the one standard deviation lines are marked with dashed orange.

So without any further ado:
Replies
Spoiler! Twitter replies over time
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Spoiler! Local extrema or most replied tweets
For replies_count Mean: 31.678474114441418 Std dev 25.03527893010051
Found, 10 events in the replies_count category
date tweet replies_count
2020-10-22 Twokinds 17th Anniversary! Can't believe it's been that long. The comic is now as old as I was when I started it! That's a weird thought... enjoy this extra-dimensional filler! https://t.co/1UChOs6dZU 205
2020-06-27 [Comic][1113] "The Painting Pt 2" https://t.co/0UGIzsR73M 182
2021-01-21 [Comic][1134] "The Value of Brutus" https://t.co/li15gTEThB 155
2019-12-28 [Comic][1089] "Why Not?" The answer to the last panel is 'Yes. Yes there is.' https://t.co/orrPUUWPUA https://t.co/YDGwFHeaFU 117
2017-10-22 Twokinds is 14 years old today! What a number. Fun Fact: The comic is now older than I was when I registered the first Twokinds domain name. https://t.co/4DTAlReqnh 98
2016-05-18 [Comic][917] "Taking Fire" https://t.co/DiDJ8Xg0vZ https://t.co/HSf1bvq3iP 93
2017-10-04 [Comic][995] "Breaking Point" https://t.co/Goh65qnF4Y https://t.co/aKF3qbn3aH 93
2017-12-16 [Comic][1008] "Talking to the Ex" Flora and Sythe chat about old times. Very very old times, from our perspective. 12 YEARS since they last met in the comic! https://t.co/aQO0XDADkH https://t.co/vamGjFD96e 90
2020-02-29 [Comic][1097] "Chapter 20 End" Blood Moon https://t.co/bVR9pXxAWY https://t.co/z5Ho9KCeWn 83
2020-05-09 [Comic][1105] "The Abandoned Nursery" Sometimes there are things you want to stay forgotten. https://t.co/AdvqD72DF3 https://t.co/D5XpNajgyI 83
Retweets
Spoiler! Twitter retweets over time
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Spoiler! Local extrema or most retweeted tweets
For retweets_count Mean: 51.308056872037916 Std dev 36.698875846227295
Found, 8 events in the retweets_count category
date tweet retweets_count
2020-10-22 Twokinds 17th Anniversary! Can't believe it's been that long. The comic is now as old as I was when I started it! That's a weird thought... enjoy this extra-dimensional filler! https://t.co/1UChOs6dZU 339
2017-10-22 Twokinds is 14 years old today! What a number. Fun Fact: The comic is now older than I was when I registered the first Twokinds domain name. https://t.co/4DTAlReqnh 187
2019-12-28 [Comic][1089] "Why Not?" The answer to the last panel is 'Yes. Yes there is.' https://t.co/orrPUUWPUA https://t.co/YDGwFHeaFU 156
2020-07-12 [Comic][1114][1115] "The Rose Garden" Double page update https://t.co/oMtJNQGtZq https://t.co/zEHXiEUuBv 145
2020-05-26 [Comic][1108] "Hidden Binding Stash" Cutting back to the others. Natani reveals a hidden stash, kept close to heart. Turns out those bandages are good at hiding things, who'd have thought. https://t.co/BJaKOxnPXd https://t.co/4Jmuq5aQls 140
2020-03-28 [Comic][1101] "Stone Lick" https://t.co/0imEE8YX7U https://t.co/zv1xPwDZQ4 137
2019-11-16 [Comic][1084] "Thinking For Once" https://t.co/YMsNLTOdwq https://t.co/bty15e5cFN 135
2019-07-14 [Comic][1072] "Brutus" https://t.co/XtdJnGIM9s https://t.co/SypGrWpHw1 129
Finally likes
Spoiler! Twitter likes over time
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Spoiler! Most liked tweets
For likes_count Mean: 385.89732142857144 Std dev 336.61997796885623
Found, 9 events in the likes_count category
date tweet likes_count
2020-10-22 Twokinds 17th Anniversary! Can't believe it's been that long. The comic is now as old as I was when I started it! That's a weird thought... enjoy this extra-dimensional filler! https://t.co/1UChOs6dZU 1959
2020-01-11 [Comic][1091] "Liquid Courage Required" https://t.co/fwZrTqc5Y https://t.co/I8bHFOIMhz 1540
2017-10-22 Twokinds is 14 years old today! What a number. Fun Fact: The comic is now older than I was when I registered the first Twokinds domain name. https://t.co/4DTAlReqnh 1355
2020-06-01 [Incentive] New side comic incentive, featuring the diabolical Prince Clovis and his evil machinations in a possible dark future! https://t.co/jlR7cIgLq4 https://t.co/d36Gz89pRb 1337
2019-10-19 [Comic][1082] "Beach Pounce" Blarg! https://t.co/riSFHB7IAP https://t.co/QTx9bLUAqA 1235
2020-03-28 [Comic][1101] "Stone Lick" https://t.co/0imEE8YX7U https://t.co/zv1xPwDZQ4 1220
2020-02-15 [Comic][1095] "Formal Proposal" https://t.co/qpjqQM0hxP https://t.co/988zez3cUa 1181
2020-07-12 [Comic][1114][1115] "The Rose Garden" Double page update https://t.co/oMtJNQGtZq https://t.co/zEHXiEUuBv 1158
2019-05-01 [Art] "Keith and Natani - First Kiss" https://t.co/boVgXG6KDX #3 April color vote, suggested by Bacon3600! Based on this comic page: https://t.co/C2hSuYuD5e https://t.co/zlnfztKVUf 1095
These are interesting graphs. We can see interactions on any kind, replies, retweets and likes have increased over time quite consistently. This again matches the increase of popularity of twitter itself. But in any case with over 30k follows in the twitter handle we can safely assume that the Twokinds fans community is healthy and growing, just not here.
It is also interesting to note that most extrema are located in past 2 years. Also unlike other medium, like the forum or reddit anniversary post are very well received on twitter, the 17th anniversary filled is the most popular comic related tweet over there under all metrics. Followed closely by the current manor arc, Sythe move on Maren seems to be very popular everywhere. We can also see that the past 2 years the twitter interactions have increased significantly. When pandemic started i theorized we would get more activity in the forum since everyone was cooped up inside, I was partially right, as Twokinds engagement did increased but on Twitter/reddit. With this data I am gonna take an educated guess and say that most of the Twokinds fans over there are the youngest of the bunch.

Well that was fun but tiring... What I imagined to be a couple days project took me 2 weeks. Now I understand why data engineers are always cranky. do not worry I will do the old forum, just... later. As usual this was a very interesting experiment, at least for me. Hope some of you may have found this illustrative or interesting!
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Age distribution of Twokinds fans

#62 Post by Technic[Bot] »

I could have sworn i had posted this too. Guess I imagined it...

As you may be able to tell I am interested in all things charts, graphs and statistics. In particular I am interested in the demographics of the communities I am part of, and also of those i am not. So a couple days ago while discussing the recent sketches I wondered: How old is the Average Twokinds fan? I mean the comic is a teenager itself but who is reading it today? Is it people who have been from the beginning, meaning 30 somethings or would it appeal to a younger fanbase?

As you can Imagine figuring that out is no easy task there is not a place where people just go: "I am 20 and I like twokinds!" right? Well as you may know Tom has a sizable Twitter following, in fact that is where most of the fans seem to be nowadays, and a lot of peolpe tend to add a lot of information on their twitter bios or description: Hobbies, profession, alma mater, martial status, gender and age. Also I had been working with the Twitter API for a while now so I decided to scrape all Twokinds followers on twitter an process their bios to get their age. The i graphed that as a histogram an got this age distribution chart!
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From the around 45k followers I managed to get the age of 6899 users. turns out most of the followers did not listed that information good!. There may be some instances where string such as: "In love with @twiteruser21" may have end wrongly processed as age but still the curve looks reasonably gaussian so I do not think there were many instances of that.

As we can see most of the fans are in their early 20s and we can see a strong drop off before 18 years, I thing this is artificial as most youngsters that age actually have enough sense to not list their age publicly. But other than that the graph looks pretty good to me. I was under the impression we were in our twenties before and now i have data to back my argument

Interesting statistics!
Mean age: 22.914
Standard deviation: 4.46 years
Max age detected: 39
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Re: TwoKinds [of] data

#63 Post by Warrl »

I think there's also a strong dropoff among our older folks because many of us are also smart enough to avoid posting a lot of personal details (if a site - other than government-related stuff and financial institutions I do business with - offers a worthwhile benefit to stating a birth date, I was born on Jan 1 of the earliest year they'll allow me to pick, so I may be 121 years old) and some of us simply refuse to use Twitter.

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#64 Post by Technic[Bot] »

Warrl wrote: Mon Jul 05, 2021 1:46 am I think there's also a strong dropoff among our older folks because many of us are also smart enough to avoid posting a lot of personal details (if a site - other than government-related stuff and financial institutions I do business with - offers a worthwhile benefit to stating a birth date, I was born on Jan 1 of the earliest year they'll allow me to pick, so I may be 121 years old) and some of us simply refuse to use Twitter.
I agree I'm fact the most interesting details is not in the graph of 45k followers i was only able to extract the age of around 6.8k around 15%. The average twokinds fan seems sensible enough to not post unnecessary personal information on a public forum.

That being said the chart is not symmetrical. The drop off for older folks has a much smaller slope than for the youngster. So instead of being a sampling artifact i think that's representative of the population.
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Re: TwoKinds [of] data

#65 Post by aitaituo »

It would be interesting to see how this chart changes over time. I have been reading TwoKinds for over 10 years. Are people aging out of the story or otherwise losing interest? Has forum activity declined over time because the audience has grown, mostly among people who first started using the internet after social media largely replaced BBS? Not an answerable question, I think.

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Re: TwoKinds [of] data

#66 Post by Warrl »

One factor in the decline is that new pages of the comic used to be rather more regular and frequent. Without new content we don't have much to talk about, and if nobody's talking about anything then people stop coming to the forum.

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