Comic for Saturday, June 2nd, 2018: Sneaking Around

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Comic for Saturday, June 2nd, 2018: Sneaking Around

#1 Post by CrRAR » Sat Jun 02, 2018 7:07 pm

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More proof that Maddie is only where she intends to be for as long as she needs to be. lol

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#2 Post by Foxx Trotter » Sat Jun 02, 2018 7:12 pm

Life is full of tricks. :mrgreen: *sneak sneak*
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#3 Post by Thallium » Sat Jun 02, 2018 7:16 pm

Rose is a graduate from the Maddie school of stealth it seems, or maybe its the other way around. Come to think of it, have those two ever been seen in the same place at the same time? :shock:
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#4 Post by Hulk10 » Sat Jun 02, 2018 7:48 pm

I wonder where cute and fluffy little Flora is. :flora:
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#5 Post by Elemental Templar » Sat Jun 02, 2018 7:49 pm

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Rose is a graduate from the Maddie school of stealth it seems, or maybe its the other way around. Come to think of it, have those two ever been seen in the same place at the same time? :shock:
No... But I'm starting to believe that theory that Rose is just a ghost who haunts the grounds of the Estate.
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#6 Post by tony1695 » Sat Jun 02, 2018 8:03 pm

Rose is just like an Igor, isn't she? You need to keep her in line of sight at all times lest she just decides to appear wherever it's most convenient.
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#7 Post by NuclearBird » Sat Jun 02, 2018 8:10 pm

It's official. Rose graduated from the Batman School of Dramatic Entrances and Stealthy Exits.
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#8 Post by Meribah » Sat Jun 02, 2018 8:18 pm

I really like how this story is progressing, as well as the appearing-disappearing Rose. She could give Maddie a run for her money!

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#9 Post by MuonNeutrino » Sat Jun 02, 2018 8:23 pm

Ok... something is up with Rose. How is she always exactly where she needs to be, and how does she know where everyone is? I mean, I suppose it could just be rule of funny - 'the butler is always right behind you' *is* kinda a trope - but still, it's been pretty conspicuous.

Keep in mind, she's the seneschal of the estate - essentially the manager, not just a servant. She'd be in charge of the administration of the entire estate - managing the household budget, coordinating the (likely dozens) of staff/servants/slaves, making arrangements in the master's name when he's not present, etc. While it seems clear that her duties also include being Trace's personal interface with the estate (unsurprisingly, as she's the one basically in charge of the place), she'd also have plenty of administrative tasks to do that ought to be occupying most of her time - she shouldn't be just following Trace around ready to pop out when he needs something, that's the duty of a bodyservant, not a seneschal.

And yet, she always seems to be *right there*, the instant she's needed. From the first time we saw her again, she was waiting right at the door to open it as Trace walked up. There'd normally be no particular reason for her to be hanging out by the front door, but she's right there the moment he arrives. She goes off to make tea, and then manages to carry a teapot (and probably cups too) into the room, set it down on a table, and walk up behind Eric without anyone noticing. The next morning, she mysteriously appears right outside the bedroom door after she's mentioned, and I think it's worth noting that from her 'Putting what together?' response she was *not* there early enough to overhear the rest of Flora's statement. After the quartet heads out, she's once again conveniently right there to answer the door when Brahn's hapless templar show up. Later she's right in front of the gateway down in the garden the instant it opens, and then has gotten all the way back inside and up onto a balcony before everyone has even gotten through the portal. And then of course today she teleports right behind Trace the moment he says her name, and again from her response she was *not* there a few seconds earlier because otherwise she'd have heard what they were talking about.

In other words, Rose is always showing up in places she doesn't seem to have had any particular reason to have been hanging around, and seems to have a talent for appearing quickly and quietly out of nowhere. One or two instances could be explained away - for example, perhaps someone sent word up to the estate that Trace was on his way - but it keeps happening, and with notable attention drawn to it. Even completely ignoring things like Rose's cryptic lines here, it really seems like there's something odd going on.

Now, assuming it's not just rule of funny, it could still be something as simple as being a feature of the estate's magical amenities. One could easily imagine that the obviously absolutely-top-of-the-line estate of the *Grand Templar* would have plenty of magical enhancements, and indeed in addition to the defense spells and a permanent magical gateway 'back door' we've also seen magical voice-controlled lights and room service tables, so it seems that the estate definitely includes magic as part of its functioning. I could imagine that there'd also be utility spells to assist in the running and management of the estate, so perhaps that could include things like sensory spells that let Rose mentally keep track of what's going on, or even teleportation spells to let her get around the estate as needed. But of course there's also things like the various speculations about Rose being a ghost bound to the estate or something like that, and her cryptic statements in comic 1018 definitely don't dispel those sorts of speculations. (For that matter, her lines here also could be interpreted in some interesting ways if one wanted to.) Whichever, though, it's definitely suspicious.
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#10 Post by Eclipse » Sat Jun 02, 2018 9:04 pm

I don't think Rose is a ghost, but I do think she's been magically bound to the estate. If she was a ghost, she probably would've died recently given her greyfur appearance, which is doubtful. She's aged about the same as Euchre so it's not unreasonable to believe she's been aging normally the entire time she's been working there. I think she's been assigned to the estate instead of being executed and the Templar magically bound her to the estate, and the spell they put on her magically summons her whenever she's needed. I would definitely like for Tom to fill in the blanks on what exactly happened to Rose between the execution and Team A meeting her at the estate whatever the case, and I think this chapter is a good time to do so.

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#11 Post by James Polymer » Sat Jun 02, 2018 9:22 pm

tony1695 wrote:
Sat Jun 02, 2018 8:03 pm
Rose is just like an Igor, isn't she? You need to keep her in line of sight at all times lest she just decides to appear wherever it's most convenient.
Maybe she's like "Creepy Watson" from the Sherlock Holmes: Nemesis video game, in that Trace forgot to code her walking animation?
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#12 Post by SpottedKitty » Sat Jun 02, 2018 9:42 pm

James Polymer wrote:
Sat Jun 02, 2018 9:22 pm
Maybe she's like "Creepy Watson" from the Sherlock Holmes: Nemesis video game, in that Trace forgot to code her walking animation?
https://youtu.be/13YlEPwOfmk
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#13 Post by Diabolicon » Sat Jun 02, 2018 10:11 pm

Awww I was gonna mention Creeper Watson! :P

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#14 Post by Tyger42 » Sat Jun 02, 2018 10:16 pm

Oh, you know Rose LOVES doing that to Trace. XD She looks all stoic and stuff, but she's got her own mischievous streak.

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#15 Post by steelabjur » Sat Jun 02, 2018 10:46 pm

MuonNeutrino wrote:
Sat Jun 02, 2018 8:23 pm
Ok... something is up with Rose. How is she always exactly where she needs to be, and how does she know where everyone is? I mean, I suppose it could just be rule of funny - 'the butler is always right behind you' *is* kinda a trope - but still, it's been pretty conspicuous.

Keep in mind, she's the seneschal of the estate - essentially the manager, not just a servant. She'd be in charge of the administration of the entire estate - managing the household budget, coordinating the (likely dozens) of staff/servants/slaves, making arrangements in the master's name when he's not present, etc. While it seems clear that her duties also include being Trace's personal interface with the estate (unsurprisingly, as she's the one basically in charge of the place), she'd also have plenty of administrative tasks to do that ought to be occupying most of her time - she shouldn't be just following Trace around ready to pop out when he needs something, that's the duty of a bodyservant, not a seneschal.

And yet, she always seems to be *right there*, the instant she's needed. From the first time we saw her again, she was waiting right at the door to open it as Trace walked up. There'd normally be no particular reason for her to be hanging out by the front door, but she's right there the moment he arrives. She goes off to make tea, and then manages to carry a teapot (and probably cups too) into the room, set it down on a table, and walk up behind Eric without anyone noticing. The next morning, she mysteriously appears right outside the bedroom door after she's mentioned, and I think it's worth noting that from her 'Putting what together?' response she was *not* there early enough to overhear the rest of Flora's statement. After the quartet heads out, she's once again conveniently right there to answer the door when Brahn's hapless templar show up. Later she's right in front of the gateway down in the garden the instant it opens, and then has gotten all the way back inside and up onto a balcony before everyone has even gotten through the portal. And then of course today she teleports right behind Trace the moment he says her name, and again from her response she was *not* there a few seconds earlier because otherwise she'd have heard what they were talking about.

In other words, Rose is always showing up in places she doesn't seem to have had any particular reason to have been hanging around, and seems to have a talent for appearing quickly and quietly out of nowhere. One or two instances could be explained away - for example, perhaps someone sent word up to the estate that Trace was on his way - but it keeps happening, and with notable attention drawn to it. Even completely ignoring things like Rose's cryptic lines here, it really seems like there's something odd going on.

Now, assuming it's not just rule of funny, it could still be something as simple as being a feature of the estate's magical amenities. One could easily imagine that the obviously absolutely-top-of-the-line estate of the *Grand Templar* would have plenty of magical enhancements, and indeed in addition to the defense spells and a permanent magical gateway 'back door' we've also seen magical voice-controlled lights and room service tables, so it seems that the estate definitely includes magic as part of its functioning. I could imagine that there'd also be utility spells to assist in the running and management of the estate, so perhaps that could include things like sensory spells that let Rose mentally keep track of what's going on, or even teleportation spells to let her get around the estate as needed. But of course there's also things like the various speculations about Rose being a ghost bound to the estate or something like that, and her cryptic statements in comic 1018 definitely don't dispel those sorts of speculations. (For that matter, her lines here also could be interpreted in some interesting ways if one wanted to.) Whichever, though, it's definitely suspicious.
There's also, of course, the brightening of the background in the panel she appears in, which suggests to me a magical flash like one might expect with teleportation magic.

Regarding her comment in that last comic you linked to, I never made this mental connection before, but Rose knew Saria and Trace before the tragic trip to the woods that led to Saria's death, and Trace after that event was seeking a way to bring her back from death. Perhaps Rose was involved with that work in someway, due to her love of Saria (sort of the Igor to Trace's Dr. Frankenstein)? That might make her a threat if she realizes Flora and Trace are a thing and he's no longer trying to revive Saria.

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