Comic for February 15, 2018: Dragon Genealogy

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Re: Comic for February 15, 2018: Dragon Genealogy

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Jae wrote: Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:22 am Well, it's confirmed. Trace is a dragon. That explain the blue hair and the ability to reproduce with any species.
*closes Book of Evidence*
*Book of Evidence was really half a post-it note*
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Well I don't think we have seen his parents in the comic, my headcanon is he's Nora's son (and therefore Remi's Uncle)

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Re: Comic for February 15, 2018: Dragon Genealogy

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Drago_Whooves wrote: Tue Feb 20, 2018 9:00 pm
Jae wrote: Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:22 am Well, it's confirmed. Trace is a dragon. That explain the blue hair and the ability to reproduce with any species.
*closes Book of Evidence*
*Book of Evidence was really half a post-it note*
:potatoes:
Well I don't think we have seen his parents in the comic, my headcanon is he's Nora's son (and therefore Remi's Uncle)
Early pages (before #400) showed that Trace was the child of two human farmers, and he was taken to the Tamplar Order when his magical talents manifested.
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Re: Comic for February 15, 2018: Dragon Genealogy

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NuclearBird wrote: Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:21 pm
Drago_Whooves wrote: Tue Feb 20, 2018 9:00 pm
Jae wrote: Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:22 am Well, it's confirmed. Trace is a dragon. That explain the blue hair and the ability to reproduce with any species.
*closes Book of Evidence*
*Book of Evidence was really half a post-it note*
:potatoes:
Well I don't think we have seen his parents in the comic, my headcanon is he's Nora's son (and therefore Remi's Uncle)
Early pages (before #400) showed that Trace was the child of two human farmers, and he was taken to the Templar Order when his magical talents manifested.
Or it could be like a "Rick Riordan Modern Demigod" situation: where Trace's mortal parent remarried after the dragon one left, thus giving him mortal parents who raised him. But as he aged the signs of his inhuman heritage in the form of his magical prowess began to manifest and it caught the attention of the Templar.

And other bits of evidence for Trace being a child of Nora don't end there:

1. His outstanding magical prowess, and the fact that dragons are Creatures of Magic
2. The reason Nora was so infatuated with him during his time at the academy
3. It would provide some legitimacy to the two times she's saved his life (Pages 552 and 245)

At first we thought it was because Trace had authority over Nora & other dragons or that Nora had a "Human-Fetish", but it could all just be her trying to be seen as a good mother and make up for not being in his life.
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Re: Comic for February 15, 2018: Dragon Genealogy

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I'd like to point out that this might be the only way dragons reproduce (as Tony has suggested previously as well). That's even more plausible if Xale is right and dragons "breed true" -- their offspring are always dragons. Yes, yes, I know, Reni says "it's definitely not common," but Reni very well may not even know. And, frankly, dragons having offspring is "definitely not common," or there'd be a lot more of them. (Although, being creatures of magic, dragons may have a hard, magically-enforced population cap as well; a mechanism that is sometimes done with fae folk in some stories. In that case, full-blooded dragons would only be able to reproduce when another of them chose to end their time or was killed. It's possible that these mortal-blooded dragons would be a way around those rules.) I'm not sure I personally buy into this idea, at least at this time, but it's an interesting idea nevertheless.
BadFoMo wrote: Sat Feb 17, 2018 9:15 pmAlso, I have more of that conversation if anyone's interested.
Always. ;)

It's nice to have confirmation of a lot of this into canon. Most of it isn't a surprise, per se; at the very least we've guessed at it (and we're honestly better prepared to answer Trace's "how does it physically work" question than they are in the comic, which is amusing). But it's still nice to go from supposition to knowledge.

Oh, and in the realm of half-knowledge, Tom's comments on Trace and a dragon-lineage:
Tom wrote:Just to answer a few questions, no, Trace doesn't have any Dragon blood in him. He is not related to dragons in any way.
Sorry to disappoint everyone, but maybe it's better this way: Much less squicky if Trace isn't related to Nora, what with the implications Nora's made and the whole "subtly manipulate/dominate Trace into making love to Flora while she watches" thing Nora had going on previously in the comic.
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Re: Comic for February 15, 2018: Dragon Genealogy

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avwolf wrote: Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:46 pm
BadFoMo wrote: Sat Feb 17, 2018 9:15 pmAlso, I have more of that conversation if anyone's interested.
Always. ;)

It's nice to have confirmation of a lot of this into canon. Most of it isn't a surprise, per se; at the very least we've guessed at it (and we're honestly better prepared to answer Trace's "how does it physically work" question than they are in the comic, which is amusing). But it's still nice to go from supposition to knowledge.
It's not really much, but ok.
TheBeckoner
Lol I like this page
Some sort of shapeshifting if I had a guess.

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Dadrobit
Keiren has no idea of the booping that's coming to him.

JaydenMozingo
Probably shapeshifting yeah

Dadrobit
Hmmm, so if she's (distantly) related to the Human monarchy, then I suppose she has a rather vested interest in the conflict with the assassination of the current king no?

JaydenMozingo
I wouldn't want to imagine my grandparents doing th-... yeah, either, Reni

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Tom, you probably hear this a lot but thanks for everything you do for us

Dadrobit
I'd certainly like to see something like that; the assassination of the king was just kind of brushed over really, it'd be nice to see plot development there.

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Yeah, probably. Though, due to the supreme age gap, her grandmother would be the former king's great, great, great, great, great etc relative.

Twokinds
If there related at all anymore, considering how lines of succession can break over time.

Dadrobit
Indeed, was wondering if there was any blood left there at all.

unsteddyphoenix
Yesss I love this dragon lore

unsteddyphoenix
I KNEW they could reproduce with humans, it makes sense.

unsteddyphoenix
Also lol I love how probing trace is
Speaking for the fan...

JaydenMozingo
So now that we know dragons and humans can breed, as well (as seen so far with Flora) as keidran, what about basitins and 'other specified races'?

TheBeckoner
Isn't Trace an exception to reproducing with keidran?

Dadrobit
I think "they don't care what the masks have to say about it" pretty much covers the races alltogether.

unsteddyphoenix
Yeah, it implies that the other races DO care

Dadrobit
Though, her specifying "they" instead of "we" is kind of sad.

unsteddyphoenix
Lol, naw. She's got human citizenship

unsteddyphoenix
No longer an illegal dragon alien

JaydenMozingo
Yeah
lol

Dadrobit
Needs that dual-citezenship yo.
citizenship*
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Re: Comic for February 15, 2018: Dragon Genealogy

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avwolf wrote: Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:46 pmOh, and in the realm of half-knowledge, Tom's comments on Trace and a dragon-lineage:
Tom wrote:Just to answer a few questions, no, Trace doesn't have any Dragon blood in him. He is not related to dragons in any way.
Sorry to disappoint everyone, but maybe it's better this way: Much less squicky if Trace isn't related to Nora, what with the implications Nora's made and the whole "subtly manipulate/dominate Trace into making love to Flora while she watches" thing Nora had going on previously in the comic.
That just opens the door for something else to have influenced how much of a prodigious spellcaster Trace became. And I agree that Nora playing matchmaker is more palatable if she's not related in any way. Still creepy though.
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Re: Comic for February 15, 2018: Dragon Genealogy

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Schrodinger wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2018 5:34 am
avwolf wrote: Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:46 pmOh, and in the realm of half-knowledge, Tom's comments on Trace and a dragon-lineage:
Tom wrote:Just to answer a few questions, no, Trace doesn't have any Dragon blood in him. He is not related to dragons in any way.
Sorry to disappoint everyone, but maybe it's better this way: Much less squicky if Trace isn't related to Nora, what with the implications Nora's made and the whole "subtly manipulate/dominate Trace into making love to Flora while she watches" thing Nora had going on previously in the comic.
That just opens the door for something else to have influenced how much of a prodigious spellcaster Trace became. And I agree that Nora playing matchmaker is more palatable if she's not related in any way. Still creepy though.
I also immediately squicked at the suggestion Nora is Trace's mother.

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Re: Comic for February 15, 2018: Dragon Genealogy

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aitaituo wrote: Thu Feb 22, 2018 3:16 am
Schrodinger wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2018 5:34 am
avwolf wrote: Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:46 pmOh, and in the realm of half-knowledge, Tom's comments on Trace and a dragon-lineage:
Tom wrote:Just to answer a few questions, no, Trace doesn't have any Dragon blood in him. He is not related to dragons in any way.
Sorry to disappoint everyone, but maybe it's better this way: Much less squicky if Trace isn't related to Nora, what with the implications Nora's made and the whole "subtly manipulate/dominate Trace into making love to Flora while she watches" thing Nora had going on previously in the comic.
That just opens the door for something else to have influenced how much of a prodigious spellcaster Trace became. And I agree that Nora playing matchmaker is more palatable if she's not related in any way. Still creepy though.
I also immediately squicked at the suggestion Nora is Trace's mother.
Yeah, I think we can all agree to that.
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Re: Comic for February 15, 2018: Dragon Genealogy

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Elemental Templar wrote: Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:02 pm
NuclearBird wrote: Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:21 pm
Drago_Whooves wrote: Tue Feb 20, 2018 9:00 pm
Jae wrote: Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:22 am Well, it's confirmed. Trace is a dragon. That explain the blue hair and the ability to reproduce with any species.
*closes Book of Evidence*
*Book of Evidence was really half a post-it note*
:potatoes:
Well I don't think we have seen his parents in the comic, my headcanon is he's Nora's son (and therefore Remi's Uncle)
Early pages (before #400) showed that Trace was the child of two human farmers, and he was taken to the Templar Order when his magical talents manifested.
Or it could be like a "Rick Riordan Modern Demigod" situation: where Trace's mortal parent remarried after the dragon one left, thus giving him mortal parents who raised him. But as he aged the signs of his inhuman heritage in the form of his magical prowess began to manifest and it caught the attention of the Templar.

And other bits of evidence for Trace being a child of Nora don't end there:

1. His outstanding magical prowess, and the fact that dragons are Creatures of Magic
2. The reason Nora was so infatuated with him during his time at the academy
3. It would provide some legitimacy to the two times she's saved his life (Pages 552 and 245)

At first we thought it was because Trace had authority over Nora & other dragons or that Nora had a "Human-Fetish", but it could all just be her trying to be seen as a good mother and make up for not being in his life.
Now I want Trace to try to kill a dragon, only to have it say, "Trace... I AM YOUR FATHER!"
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Re: Comic for February 15, 2018: Dragon Genealogy

#55 Post by Hulk10 »

Why would Nora be Trace's mother?
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