Plus she has vestigial horns above her ears, a pointed tail, wrong strips, a heart-shaped mark, GLOWING EYES...Shockwave07 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 11:34 pm Truth, doubt, or lie?
Definitely lie! His hands can't quite fit over those breasts!
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Yeah he is clearly suspecting something.steelabjur wrote: ↑Mon Jul 16, 2018 1:59 amPlus she has vestigial horns above her ears, a pointed tail, wrong strips, a heart-shaped mark, GLOWING EYES...Shockwave07 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 11:34 pm Truth, doubt, or lie?
Definitely lie! His hands can't quite fit over those breasts!
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Or wondering "Well, how much hanky-panky will I be able to get away with now, without the REAL Flora finding out?"Hulk10 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 16, 2018 4:13 amYeah he is clearly suspecting something.steelabjur wrote: ↑Mon Jul 16, 2018 1:59 amPlus she has vestigial horns above her ears, a pointed tail, wrong strips, a heart-shaped mark, GLOWING EYES...Shockwave07 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 11:34 pm Truth, doubt, or lie?
Definitely lie! His hands can't quite fit over those breasts!
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In Not Another Life, Clovis Has a "Bad Dream" starring his right hand wolf, Brutus.
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Max Headroom approves.JunkerFox wrote: ↑Mon Jul 16, 2018 9:26 pmI've already shuffled itsteelabjur wrote: ↑Mon Jul 16, 2018 4:51 pm In Not Another Life, Clovis Has a "Bad Dream" starring his right hand wolf, Brutus.
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Just here to say this suddenly felt like a persona (the game) thread for a second!
How is this considered] safe enough by the new Patreon Standards and something like Mean girls or the recent Flora trust me is not? No really I am seriously asking. i do not get it...steelabjur wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 12:37 am Maid Clovis can dust the top of my bookshelves any day!
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Nora walks that thin line between trickster dragon and evil demi-god playing and torturing mere mortals because she finds it interesting...tony1695 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:49 pmAt least then she wasn't trying to trick him into infidelity.Ddraig wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:32 pmYou mean it wasn't before?tony1695 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:02 pm Flora, Trust Me
Nora, your obsession is becoming legitimately creepy now.
Just a rant about Clovis, again turned out larger than expected so i spoilered for convenience.steelabjur wrote: ↑Mon Jul 16, 2018 4:51 pm In Not Another Life, Clovis Has a "Bad Dream" starring his right hand wolf, Brutus.
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Hmm funny but I still think he's suspicious.JohnTheWysard wrote: ↑Mon Jul 16, 2018 5:40 amOr wondering "Well, how much hanky-panky will I be able to get away with now, without the REAL Flora finding out?"Hulk10 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 16, 2018 4:13 amYeah he is clearly suspecting something.steelabjur wrote: ↑Mon Jul 16, 2018 1:59 amPlus she has vestigial horns above her ears, a pointed tail, wrong strips, a heart-shaped mark, GLOWING EYES...Shockwave07 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 11:34 pm Truth, doubt, or lie?
Definitely lie! His hands can't quite fit over those breasts!
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Glad I'm not the only one. There's a humiliation theme in almost all of them. It kind of puts an uncomfortable notion behind the reason why Natani was written as a character trapped in the wrong body.Technic[Bot] wrote: ↑Tue Jul 17, 2018 12:20 am Just a rant about Clovis, again turned out larger than expected so i spoilered for convenience.Spoiler!
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There's a lot of forced feminization/sissification fetishists here? I know we're pervs, but I can't recall seeing anyone express that particular brand of perviness. I've read probably hundreds of discussions re Natani, but not a one saying yeah, feel that humiliation, boy, I want more of that. Clovis is a villain, sure, but Trace is too, so it's out of character for Tom and the forum to follow the karmic jackhammer approach here. Clovis is even fully cognizant of his past actions and the reasons he has ended up with this punishment, unlike Trace who got a karma reset. In the sketches and the strip, Clovis hasn't been shown to have continued his sexist dickery after Nora cursed him, IIRC.ThunderVolt wrote: ↑Tue Jul 17, 2018 4:03 am I could care less about the development of the characters. The sketches aren't canon, so if we removed the whole sketch element entirely, Clovis would still be painted as terrible anyway.
Besides, this is what the FANS want. So if you're looking for someone to blame, it's in front of ya, LOL
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I think it's less just because he's a villain, and more because he's such an intensely *dislikable* villain. Trace was a villain, sure, but he's a fairly likable character now which makes it harder to hate on him. And even when he was a villain, while thoroughly evil on a scale that leaves Clovis in the dust, he did have a relatively sympathetic/tragic background and displayed less *personal* sliminess and jerkassery. Clovis, on the other hand, seems to be more "I'm evil because I like it and I can get away with it and I have no redeeming qualities at all". He *enjoys* being bad, he revels in the power and his ability to punish people and make them dance to his will. Trace thought he was doing the right thing. Clovis doesn't *care* about doing the right thing. He's a more selfish and hedonistic and arrogant brand of villainy, and between that and the fact that we've seen his villainy more up close and personally than we've seen evil!Trace's, it makes for a more easily viscerally dislikable character IMO. And so, between that and the fanservice possibilities, IMO that explains why people feel more comfortable to make suggestions that 'punish' him like that.
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Trace is an ex-villain likeable protagonist. Clovis is clearly still a villain and I don't recall anything rendering him likeable. I put the abuse he takes in these user-requested sketches as the sort of thing people like to imagine doing to villains/enemies, but most people wouldn't even if they could.aitaituo wrote: ↑Tue Jul 17, 2018 7:41 amThere's a lot of forced feminization/sissification fetishists here? I know we're pervs, but I can't recall seeing anyone express that particular brand of perviness. I've read probably hundreds of discussions re Natani, but not a one saying yeah, feel that humiliation, boy, I want more of that. Clovis is a villain, sure, but Trace is too, so it's out of character for Tom and the forum to follow the karmic jackhammer approach here. Clovis is even fully cognizant of his past actions and the reasons he has ended up with this punishment, unlike Trace who got a karma reset. In the sketches and the strip, Clovis hasn't been shown to have continued his sexist dickery after Nora cursed him, IIRC.
Flip side of that, for the most recent one, the reality is that sexual attraction is not strictly mental and not strictly physical. It's a blend of the mind and the body. Clovis transformed to a female body probably would experience feelings of this kind, although not necessarily to this degree.
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I'm not going to look too deeply into it, but I've always took the fact that he was, and still is, a horrible misogynist as what makes this sort of sketch a "punishment" to begin with. Sort of like taking and turning him into a Keidran would have been a punishment at one point (but he's fighting to overcome his prejudice, which is what makes him a protagonist and ruins the "punishment" aspect). Take Maid Clovis and one of the many times Keith was put in that same outfit/position, for example.
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Oh I know this is extremely popular in the requests and has a very positive reception in the comments, both in deviantart, patreon and even here.ThunderVolt wrote: ↑Tue Jul 17, 2018 4:03 am I could care less about the development of the characters. The sketches aren't canon, so if we removed the whole sketch element entirely, Clovis would still be painted as terrible anyway.
Besides, this is what the FANS want. So if you're looking for someone to blame, it's in front of ya, LOL
Transformation and gender-bent are, for what I gather, are quite popular themes in here. Also yes Clovis sent Carver to find and/or kill Zen and company even after his curse.aitaituo wrote: ↑Tue Jul 17, 2018 7:41 am There's a lot of forced feminization/sissification fetishists here? I know we're pervs, but I can't recall seeing anyone express that particular brand of perviness. I've read probably hundreds of discussions re Natani, but not a one saying yeah, feel that humiliation, boy, I want more of that. Clovis is a villain, sure, but Trace is too, so it's out of character for Tom and the forum to follow the karmic jackhammer approach here. Clovis is even fully cognizant of his past actions and the reasons he has ended up with this punishment, unlike Trace who got a karma reset. In the sketches and the strip, Clovis hasn't been shown to have continued his sexist dickery after Nora cursed him, IIRC.
This right here. Trace was/is horrible in his own right. But he had a reason and a method to his madness, he was a nuanced villain something Clovis can't claim. As you point out he is evil, for the sake of evil sometimes to the point of caricature. That is why he reminds me of those old school villains whit top had and mustache who main, and only, hobby is to strap young women to trains tracks to kill them. Only to be stopped by the hero, the cowboy/ knight in shinning armor.MuonNeutrino wrote: ↑Tue Jul 17, 2018 3:20 pm I think it's less just because he's a villain, and more because he's such an intensely *dislikable* villain. Trace was a villain, sure, but he's a fairly likable character now which makes it harder to hate on him. And even when he was a villain, while thoroughly evil on a scale that leaves Clovis in the dust, he did have a relatively sympathetic/tragic background and displayed less *personal* sliminess and jerkassery. Clovis, on the other hand, seems to be more "I'm evil because I like it and I can get away with it and I have no redeeming qualities at all". He *enjoys* being bad, he revels in the power and his ability to punish people and make them dance to his will. Trace thought he was doing the right thing. Clovis doesn't *care* about doing the right thing. He's a more selfish and hedonistic and arrogant brand of villainy, and between that and the fact that we've seen his villainy more up close and personally than we've seen evil!Trace's, it makes for a more easily viscerally dislikable character IMO. And so, between that and the fanservice possibilities, IMO that explains why people feel more comfortable to make suggestions that 'punish' him like that.
Hopefully if and when he is incorporated into the main story we have a more detailed version about his motivations. If at the end he is completely irredeemable a psychopath or something, well you imprison him in a facility and throw away the key if you are against the death penalty or put one between his eyes if you are not. Making him suffer for all his life if quite pointless in my opinion.
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This time we have a sketch for those with an eye for the guys, Shower Keith! No DA link yet.
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Showering with your loincloth on? So uncivilized, even by Basitin standards.tony1695 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:17 pm This time we have a sketch for those with an eye for the guys, Shower Keith! No DA link yet.
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