I dunno, I think those are two different situations. Although it was hinted at in the early chapters, we don't know how much of the KeithxFloraxTrace love triangle was developed, or why exactly it was dropped. KeithxNatanixLaura never really seemed to be on the table... Laura was already old by the time she was introduced, and didn't offer much to the group (from a story-telling perspective) to have her tag along, other than to continually act as foil for Natani's interest in Keith (where Keith still had feelings for Laura, and Natani and Keith were having trouble opening up to each other).Stormlight wrote:I get the feeling that Tom doesn't really like them, given how (relativley) quickly the Keith Flora Trace and Keith Natani Laura situations were resolved, but group b also seems to be headed in that direction.
Though there is that hesitation in his statement, which opens up the possibility that he was thinking/implying '"me" but looked for a way to say it more tactfully. "Her own kind" meant "keidran" after all, and he's the only other keidran there. And Red's response "Don't get any ideas!" certainly implies that. Further, Sythe has a bit of trouble seeing her as a human, as he later says "things were [a] lot friendlier between our kind and theirs" right to her without thinking.Bellhead wrote:Look at how he hesitates when suggesting that Red and Raine should not be together, 784. He says "Maybe it'll help convince her that she'd be better off with... someone of her own kind."
Note how he doesn't say "me" or "my kind", or anything besides "her own kind".
I'm not sure Raine's feelings towards Red have ever been brought up. By the time he asked her out she was much more worried about her ongoing transformation, and since then she's been more concerned with keeping Red and Sythe's friendship. Some part of Raine even doubts if Red honestly still thinks of her as a friend (and Red's continual use of keidran slurs and anti-keidran remarks obviously bothers her). Up to now, Raine has only expressed that she sees them all as friends.Red loves Raine, and Raine loves Red.
Besides, we know what Raine really wants to have happen.
I agree with that. Sythe doesn't seem to be the type of character to purposely get in-between Red and Raine if they both make it known they like each other. But I think too much of it is still in the air... Sythe doesn't know how much Red likes Raine, Raine has not had an opportunity to show any kind of affection to either of them, and Sythe obviously has some attraction to Raine (whether it's a relationship attraction, or simply because she's kinda-sorta another keidran, is not clear).One final repeated note: Sythe cares. He's not a selfish jerk, and he's not a jealous maniac. He wouldn't try to put himself between a couple of star-crossed lovers who are making progress working past racial barriers just because he wants a girl.
Considering that the pizza night is the entire reason Sythe remembered them and helped them escape, I think it still holds some weight. Though I do think the dialog from that night is innocent enough to not imply anything between them. Although... Maren did go along with the pretend-Sythe-is-our-prisoner plan and lie right to the Templar's face when she didn't have to, and was okay with having Sythe keep an eye on Raine by the river.deadman2011 wrote:As for the night with the pizza Tom's pretty well stated that he ignores some of the things that he wrote back then at least till chapter 7. So who's to say that he hasn't ignored that one?