Comic for February 20, 2021: Nibs Goes Nuts

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Re: Comic for February 20, 2021: Nibs Goes Nuts

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Ainoko Ironrose wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 12:05 pm
tony1695 wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 1:53 amI wonder, are the twins here linked in a way similar to Nat and Zen?
No they aren't. Zen and Natani are linked spiritually due to Natani's soul getting fatally damaged when she used black magic to try to bring back their parents after they died.
Actually, Natani was damaged by Isaac, an old wolf that was the target of their first assasination. He used forbidden magic and damaged her mind and soul. https://twokinds.keenspot.com/comic/447/

I don't see any reason why Romulus and Remus couldn't have also been linked the same (or almost the same) way as Natani and Zen. It was Clovis, after all, who arranged it for Natani and Zen. No reason to think he did, but he could have.

Also, this page has brought back a similar incident which happened to me.
I was riding my bicycle with some friends down a long hill in a wooded area, probably going around 35 mph. A squirrel ran out in front of us, and at the last minute, misjudged how fast we were going and ended up running into the spokes of my front wheel. It flew out of my wheel, and landed on my right leg and started climbing me (fortunately, not stopping to bite anything). After reaching my shoulder, it jumped and hit the ground running, apparently uninjured.

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Ainoko Ironrose wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 12:05 pm
tony1695 wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 1:53 amI wonder, are the twins here linked in a way similar to Nat and Zen?
No they aren't. Zen and Natani are linked spiritually due to Natani's soul getting fatally damaged when she used black magic to try to bring back their parents after they died.
It wasn't Natani using black magic, it was Isaac and he was the one that ultimately paid for it. Natani doesn't say the heart's desire spell hurt her when she tried it with her parents in mind. Being faceless made it easy for her to dismiss the spell first.
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Ainoko Ironrose wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 12:05 pm
tony1695 wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 1:53 amI wonder, are the twins here linked in a way similar to Nat and Zen?
No they aren't. Zen and Natani are linked spiritually due to Natani's soul getting fatally damaged when she used black magic to try to bring back their parents after they died.
Not quite. Natani's soul was fatally damaged when a mage they were trying to assassinate used black magic to rip her soul.

(Which killed the mage too.)

Zen saved her life by finding a mage who would splice their souls together. One of the claimed effects of all this was the loss of the female part of Natani's soul. Unfortunately, that mage was Clovis.

Or at least that was the story told in-comic

(Personally I suspect that Natani was genderfluid tilting slightly male to begin with.)

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Warrl wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 8:13 pm
Ainoko Ironrose wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 12:05 pm
tony1695 wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 1:53 amI wonder, are the twins here linked in a way similar to Nat and Zen?
No they aren't. Zen and Natani are linked spiritually due to Natani's soul getting fatally damaged when she used black magic to try to bring back their parents after they died.
Not quite. Natani's soul was fatally damaged when a mage they were trying to assassinate used black magic to rip her soul.

(Which killed the mage too.)

Zen saved her life by finding a mage who would splice their souls together. One of the claimed effects of all this was the loss of the female part of Natani's soul. Unfortunately, that mage was Clovis.

Or at least that was the story told in-comic

(Personally I suspect that Natani was genderfluid tilting slightly male to begin with.)
Remus and Romulus are twins, even if no magic is involved twins are really close. They may not be telepathic but twins are usually uncannily aware of each other emotions/intentions.

I like to think that the spell that to put Natani soul together was experimental at best, not even Clovis or his men were fully aware of all the side effect and implications it carried. They were basically throwing stuff at the wall to see if it stick. Natani was just a guinea pig. Worst case scenario they kill both, best case they get the "best" assassins around bound to them.

This also gives leeway for the story to bend as the spell effects are not set in stone. As it is now it is implied Natani was more or less the same before the accident, maybe just less intense, but the imprinting of his brother and the whole ordeal made him believe he was weak and powerless before.
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While it would not be in other circumstances, Nibs has delivered a fatal attack. Just look behind him, we all know he's going over.
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AmigaDragon wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:59 pm While it would not be in other circumstances, Nibs has delivered a fatal attack. Just look behind him, we all know he's going over.
Pretty much my guess. He's gonna take a few dazed steps backwards and fall through the banister into the foyer below.

And depending on how he lands on that cold unforgiving floor, he'll either live (but be paralyzed for life) or die.

Not too sure how long that fall would be though.
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I just want to give a shout out to the name of the page. effing purrfect. (Can squirrels purr? google? yes they can.)

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stlsf4003 wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 4:39 am
AmigaDragon wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:59 pm While it would not be in other circumstances, Nibs has delivered a fatal attack. Just look behind him, we all know he's going over.
Pretty much my guess. He's gonna take a few dazed steps backwards and fall through the banister into the foyer below.

And depending on how he lands on that cold unforgiving floor, he'll either live (but be paralyzed for life) or die.

Not too sure how long that fall would be though.
Looks pretty high up (first panel), here's a view of the double doors from up where Remus is right now (4th panel). I wouldn't want to fall from that height!

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Ouch. I mean, yeah its funny, but dang... I feel like that should've happened to Clovis.(He deserves it after what he did to Brutus.)
tony1695 wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 1:53 am I wonder, are the twins here linked in a way similar to Nat and Zen?
I don't see why they would be.
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steelabjur wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:04 am
stlsf4003 wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 4:39 am
AmigaDragon wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:59 pm While it would not be in other circumstances, Nibs has delivered a fatal attack. Just look behind him, we all know he's going over.
Pretty much my guess. He's gonna take a few dazed steps backwards and fall through the banister into the foyer below.

And depending on how he lands on that cold unforgiving floor, he'll either live (but be paralyzed for life) or die.

Not too sure how long that fall would be though.
Looks pretty high up (first panel), here's a view of the double doors from up where Remus is right now (4th panel). I wouldn't want to fall from that height!
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FireworkFox wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 4:20 pm
tony1695 wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 1:53 am I wonder, are the twins here linked in a way similar to Nat and Zen?
I don't see why they would be.
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tony1695 wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:44 am
FireworkFox wrote: Mon Feb 22, 2021 4:20 pm
tony1695 wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 1:53 am I wonder, are the twins here linked in a way similar to Nat and Zen?
I don't see why they would be.
Communication. In an era without radios or other easy means of communicating vital info, a link like that would be an invaluable battlefield tool.
343. Zen's superiors used him to send orders to Natani. But mages can also communicate over long distances. It makes more sense that it's only used in small groups, or even just groups of two. It seems like it would be a better stealth and infiltration tool, rather than a battlefield information system, given the implications and how difficult it is to create.

I could see it being used for the top-tier warrior pairs, so they could fight without blind spots, but I think that link would be fairly strained unless those involved are extremely compatible; both mentally and behaviorally. Having somebody else in your head 24/7 is bad enough when you do get along with them. Create a bad pairing, and they could very well drive each other completely insane before long. It would probably be easier (using magic, anyway) to temporarily link the minds, rather than the souls, of a small squad during battle; something that could be easily removed or disabled when not in use. But we don't have much canon experience with large-scale battles that would necessitate that level of cooperation, so it's just a shot in the dark.

But knowing Clovis, if anyone on his side could communicate complex information with just a thought, he would have to be in on it like he was with Nat and Zen. Being connected to that many people would provide more information than any modern surveillance system ever could, with the catch that there would be no reliable filter, and he would experience it all first-hand. It would put a ridiculous amount of strain on his mind. And even if he never considered it before Nat and Zen, given what happened with those two, he likely never will again. It seemed like it was a fairly substantial investment on his part to even do it in the first place.

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#45 Post by Yastreb »

In TDM it sounds more like Clovis can connect to the Zen-Natani link, not that he is in it all the time. He could have lots of his underlings attached with links he can listen only when needed without straining his mind.

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